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Blackpowdersmoke 02-17-2012 08:03 PM

What will muzzleloading be like in 50 yrs.?
 
Well...What do most of you think muzzleloading is gonna be like in another 50 years. I won't live long enough to see it, but I would like to hear what most of you can speculate. I think there will always be a devoted traditional crowd, but what is technology going to do to muzzleloading as we know it? I would tend to hang with the traditionalists if I were still around...But what do you in-line boys think will transpire??? Now, ya gotta remember, it's not a muzzleloader UNLESS IT'S LOADED THROUGH THE MUZZLE!! Lazer sighted, app. downloadable, and satellite guided rangefinding scopes, self cleaning powders (the more you shoot, the cleaner it gets), GOD ONLY KNOWS what kind of projectiles (heat/mass seeking), etc., etc...where is it gonna end?

BPS

cayugad 02-17-2012 08:28 PM

As you said.. there will always be those that love the charm of Traditional Rifles and what they can do. But I do believe the projectiles and optics will make great advances in the muzzle loading market place. We are already seeing that. Look at what has advanced in just the last ten years.

Another concern of mine would be in the political forum. It is possible, the hue and cry of certain political power groups will make sure that the use of a muzzleloader is for amusement only and not for hunting. Perhaps in 50 years, hunting as we know it will not exist.

One other concern is the use of LEAD. Oh yes, the DREADED LEAD BULLET. That magic metal that animals eat and then die from it. That magic metal that comes out of the ground and has been around for hundreds of years. I can see again, political groups outlaw the use of lead. Imagine trying to shoot a traditional rifle with something non lead.

HDMontana 02-17-2012 09:23 PM

I think in the future, that electra style rifle might be more common than not. In 50 years my son will have hopefully taught his son and grandson to hunt. I only hope that the things that I have taught him and those things I have yet to teach him will help him be a better person. It will be up to him to see what is 50 years down the road and determine if it is better than what his old man used.

Semisane 02-17-2012 09:36 PM

One piece polymer stock and barrel units with barrels lined with a newly developed ceramic steel fiber, shooting a wide selection of smokeless powers ignited by caseless precussion disks held in a tubular magazine that feeds the disk into the ignition chamber upon pressing a button behind the trigger guard, or (for the diehard traditionalists) upon cocking of a hammer.

pluckit 02-18-2012 01:34 AM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3912907)
One piece polymer stock and barrel units with barrels lined with a newly developed ceramic steel fiber, shooting a wide selection of smokeless powers ignited by caseless precussion disks held in a tubular magazine that feeds the disk into the ignition chamber upon pressing a button behind the trigger guard, or (for the diehard traditionalists) upon cocking of a hammer.

Patent Pending

Bruce H 02-18-2012 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Blackpowdersmoke (Post 3912902)
....Now, ya gotta remember, it's not a muzzleloader UNLESS IT'S LOADED THROUGH THE MUZZLE!! Lazer sighted, app. downloadable, and satellite guided rangefinding scopes, self cleaning powders (the more you shoot, the cleaner it gets), GOD ONLY KNOWS what kind of projectiles (heat/mass seeking), etc., etc...where is it gonna end?

BPS

I have an uneasy feeling this may be closer than some might think. Maybe the day will come when a person can sit in camp while the ML is mounted on a remote controlled turret that's computer controlled and all that has to be done is push Ctrl/Alt/Delete and the animal is terminated. Being a traditionalist and looking at ways to be even more traditional, I hope to never see it get more modern than it is now.

lemoyne 02-18-2012 05:02 AM

I believe the trend is starting to swing toward traditional rifles, that inlines will disappear when they are no longer legal for hunting and that only reasonably accurate copies of originals will be allowed for hunting.
One of the reasons is that when the population grows hunting will be restricted to shorter range weapons as it is in many places now and the inlines are getting long ranged enough that they will eventually be put in the same class as high powered rifles.

Dutch 02-18-2012 06:42 AM

Inlines will not disappear. They will not become illegal to use. Remember that the number of hunters is dwindling. Hunting is the best form of deer population control availble to the DNR. If anything, the rules will ease. Scopes will be allowed everwhere and powder and bullet restrictions will disappear. If you don't think I am right, look at how the states are adopting crossbows. The situation is virtually the same.

One fear I have is the Washington will continue to erode our second amendment rights. We could see ML's become more prevalent because restrictions on cartridge firearms will be increased. For those of us who like to use ML's exclusively in the hunting field it is no problem. But it would be a huge problem for us as Americans.

Finally I have one hope for the ML's of the future. I would like to see more higher quality rifles in the market. There are many high quality cartridge rifles/companies in the market that make quality pieces at reasonable prices. While we have some quality makers in the ML market, I would like to see more in the future.

Muley Hunter 02-18-2012 06:48 AM

I'd love to find out, but then i'd be the oldest human since Moses.

HDMontana 02-18-2012 07:22 AM

I'm waiting to hear Mountaindevil's prediction. I'm sure it will be pretty good.

omegasmoke 02-18-2012 07:28 AM

I'll be long gone, don't know, don't care.

Breechplug 02-18-2012 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3912903)
As you said.. there will always be those that love the charm of Traditional Rifles and what they can do. But I do believe the projectiles and optics will make great advances in the muzzle loading market place. We are already seeing that. Look at what has advanced in just the last ten years.

Another concern of mine would be in the political forum. It is possible, the hue and cry of certain political power groups will make sure that the use of a muzzleloader is for amusement only and not for hunting. Perhaps in 50 years, hunting as we know it will not exist.

One other concern is the use of LEAD. Oh yes, the DREADED LEAD BULLET. That magic metal that animals eat and then die from it. That magic metal that comes out of the ground and has been around for hundreds of years. I can see again, political groups outlaw the use of lead. Imagine trying to shoot a traditional rifle with something non lead.

I have to agree with Dave on this one, somewhat anyway. I do believe that there will be a never ending battle against banning all guns and it's going to depend on what Supreme Court Justices are sitting on the bench in the next generation. It will all boil down to whoever wins the next election as the some supreme court jsutices will retire soon and whoevers in power will seat them for LIFE, so it could go Liberal or Conservative and that will be the determinging factor that our next gerneration will have to deal with.
I believ like dave that the powders, projectiles and optics will be the main focus in years to come, mabey some super light weight carbon barrels of some sort.
As for Lead, our state just tried to pass a Ban on all Lead based Fishing Tackle, but the Fisherman spoke loudly and it was defeated:rock:but Im sure in the future it will come up again. Here in NY the only restrictions for the use of ML hunting is that the Bore has a minimum of .44 inches and shoots a single projectile. Scopes, Sabots and Fober Optic Sights are allowed anytime as is the use of the Electric CVA Electra, so we do have it better than many States already.
A MLer will always have to be loaded through the muzzle, so that said the manufactures will focus on better barrel materials, bullets, sabots and powders, along with optics. There's no telling what they will come up with as 50 years ago most would have thought that what we have today would have never happened.
Whatever they come up with Im sure will be high tec and advanced. But they can make better all they can to do with MLing but our main concern should be weather or not we'll all be able to Hunt Period, weather it be with a Bow a Gun or a MLer.
Lets all just hope for the best and if your not a NRA Member, Join, this along with fighting the Anti's and the Environmentalist is what we should worry about most.
(BP)

MountainDevil54 02-18-2012 08:45 AM

We will shoot laser balls out of your muzzies!

HDMontana 02-18-2012 08:58 AM

And our ATV's will be hover crafts.:rock:

Dutch 02-18-2012 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by HDMontana (Post 3912975)
And our ATV's will be hover crafts.:rock:

I still use two "black cadillacs" to get around my hunting area. But as I get older, I find those ATV's more and more attractive. IF they hovered, the tree huggers would be happy because the are not defiling the natural soil stratification!!!! However if making ruts irritates some hybrid driving ASPCA weirdo, count me in. :D

nchawkeye 02-18-2012 09:25 AM

Fifty years from now, I'll be 106 so I'll be taking my great, great, great grand kids hunting...I'll still be using my flintlocks and my Knight Disc... :)

I'll also still be shooting lead round balls as I have molds for my flinters...


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