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Muley Hunter 02-16-2012 05:39 PM

Whoa!
 
Is this a normal flash?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQUIzAQCjbs

Semisane 02-16-2012 06:00 PM

Looks pretty normal. Remember, the light on that ultra slow motion video is low and the camera sees more than the naked eye.

The video stops before you can tell if there's a charge in the barrel. But it may be that some of what you are seeing near the end of the video is part of the main powder charge blowing out of the touch hole.

Blackpowdersmoke 02-16-2012 08:56 PM

Did you notice the frizzen "bounce back"...that's what causes prematurely broken flints...

BPS

Muley Hunter 02-17-2012 05:47 AM

What surprised me was the small amount of sparks from the flint/frizzen. Unless the slow motion made it seem that way?

cayugad 02-17-2012 06:21 AM

I was surprised how far back the flash moved towards the shooter's face. And how that initial little spark grows in the pan. Very cool. Thanks for posting that.

Muley Hunter 02-17-2012 06:49 AM

A lot of sparks headed for his face too. I wish the video was longer.

Grouse45 02-17-2012 06:50 AM

That dude kept his eyes open a pretty long time.

Muley Hunter 02-17-2012 06:57 AM

I've never shot a flintlock. I can see why they say it takes awhile to get used to the flash.

I'm dying to buy one. I have a GPR LH flint on hold, but I can't seem to pull the plug and get it. I think it would be a blast to hunt deer with it in deep timber.

Muley Hunter 02-17-2012 10:20 AM

Well, we're going to find out if I like a flintlock. I ordered the GPR. I'll make it my deer rifle.

I have some Goex 2F and 4F coming. Some flints from TOW, and an RMC vent liner.

Anything else I can do to speed up and make the lock reliable?

I'm a flintlock noob, so all the help is appreciated.

bronko22000 02-17-2012 11:54 AM

Looks pretty normal to me. Maybe a bit bigger. Probably had a full pan of powder (more then he needed). Was that really slow motion? Seems like that's how long it takes my flinter to go off!!!
Just kidding. That was a good shower of sparks into the pan.

Muley Hunter 02-17-2012 01:14 PM

Don't seem to be much help here.

You wouldn't ignore a noob would you?

Help!

I guess I can figure it out. :confused:

MountainDevil54 02-17-2012 02:05 PM

traditions kentucky. That amount of poor spark is pretty typical. I had to heat mine up red hot then i quinched it in motor oil. Water is supposed to be better for that part though.

Mine fires super fast now that i got it sparking good and use good flints. It took me a while though to figure out just the right amount of charge in the prime pan.

Semisane 02-17-2012 02:08 PM

I guess we all figured you were beyond help anyway Muley. :s2:

You don't have the gun yet, so you really don't know if you need to do anything for the lock. The lock on my GPR was fast and reliable from the factory. You did the best thing you could for ignition of the charge when you ordered that RMC liner. The Lyman liners leave something to be desired. As a minimum their flash hole usually needs to be enlarged.

There are many things that can be done to tune a flintlock, from deburring all of the internals to making adjustments to the frizzen/frizzen spring relationship.

Let's see what you get and work from there. In the meantime, you may want to get a pan primer. They are not absolutely necessary, but handy.

MountainDevil54 02-17-2012 02:11 PM

rmc liner sucked in my GPR, slowed down the ignition big time. Didn't do much for my kentucky either but i think that was before i rehardened the frizzen.

Muley Hunter 02-17-2012 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3912773)
I guess we all figured you were beyond help anyway Muley. :s2:

You don't have the gun yet, so you really don't know if you need to do anything for the lock. The lock on my GPR was fast and reliable from the factory. You did the best thing you could for ignition of the charge when you ordered that RMC liner. The Lyman liners leave something to be desired. As a minimum their flash hole usually needs to be enlarged.

There are many things that can be done to tune a flintlock, from deburring all of the internals to making adjustments to the frizzen/frizzen spring relationship.

Let's see what you get and work from there. In the meantime, you may want to get a pan primer. They are not absolutely necessary, but handy.

I bought a primer, pick, brush, hammer, and the flints are Tom fuller. I have no clue how to knap a flint. I'll have to study up on it.

Wasn't there something about heat treating the frizzen, or someone making a better one? I seem to remember using a TC hammer too, or what do you call it when it's a flint?


Jon...stop being a party pooper. You probably had BH 209 in the pan.

Semisane 02-17-2012 02:21 PM


rmc liner sucked in my GPR, slowed down the ignition big time.
How did it do that Devil? Did you really have slower ignition with the RMC liner than with the Lyman factory liner? If so, you may be the only person in the world to have experienced that.

Semisane 02-17-2012 02:28 PM

The "hammer" on a flintlock is called a C0CK. (I shall refain from further comment, given your relationship with MD) The frizzen will likely be just fine.

Some people have replaced the Lyman C0CK and their early model TC C0CK with the TC redesigned one to improve the angle at which the flint strikes the frizzen. They claim better spark and longer flint life. I haven't done that, so can't recommend for or against it.

Muley Hunter 02-17-2012 02:31 PM

I actually wrote cock first, but I was sure the forum filter would kill it, and I wasn't real sure anyway.

Muley Hunter 02-17-2012 02:33 PM

If everything is working right. Will it be as fast as a caplock?

TNHagies 02-17-2012 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3912782)
If everything is working right. Will it be as fast as a caplock?

That was my question when I got my first flintlock. The answer I was given was always "No." So far, I've found that answer to be accurate. I've got it pretty quick, but I can't match a caplock speed.

Muley Hunter 02-17-2012 05:30 PM

I guess it will be something to works towards getting.

Might have to go to a better lock.


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