Muzzleloader Barrels, care, breaking in and life spans
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Yucca Valley,Ca
Posts: 2,496
Jon, crown wear is more than likely the #1 accuracy killer, most are not even aware of it being a problem. i always use a bore guide when cleaning and loading, only time i don't is under hunting situations.
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
Posts: 3,732
One of my rifle has been used extensively for testing breech plug design, and ignition of BH209. It has seen a very many many shots. Now, when it is loaded, i can feel a loose spot just above where the bullet sits, that seems to be about 2 or 3 inches long. Right or wrong, i think this loose spot is due to barrel erosion from the heat of cumbustion. The rifle didn't shoot very accurately the past few times out, so i removed the scope, and put it on another rifle. In my mind, this rifle is worn out.
This rifle would probably be in much better shape right now, if it didn't belong to me. I have left it dirty, loaded, outside in many many nights, and days of sub-zero weather. It has been shot in temperatures over 95, to the point where one couldn't hold onto the barrel for an instant. The barrel has minor pitting from end to end caused by rust. Even though it was pitted, it still shot real good up until the loose spot developed.
This rifle' barrel is blue. It was purchased on sale. It has been a marvelous test bed. In my mind, it has exposed many many myth about what it takes to ignite BH209, and for that i am forever grateful. However, i admit to being a little sad, because it can no longer shoot straight, and this is due to the ways i abused it.
This rifle would probably be in much better shape right now, if it didn't belong to me. I have left it dirty, loaded, outside in many many nights, and days of sub-zero weather. It has been shot in temperatures over 95, to the point where one couldn't hold onto the barrel for an instant. The barrel has minor pitting from end to end caused by rust. Even though it was pitted, it still shot real good up until the loose spot developed.
This rifle' barrel is blue. It was purchased on sale. It has been a marvelous test bed. In my mind, it has exposed many many myth about what it takes to ignite BH209, and for that i am forever grateful. However, i admit to being a little sad, because it can no longer shoot straight, and this is due to the ways i abused it.
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,079
I have been reading "The Complete Black Powder Handbook" by Sam Fadala, copyright 1979 by DBI Books, Inc, Northfield, IL. He has a chapter on accuracy, in it he says that after 1,000 rounds accuracy begins to deteriorate. He used three rifles in a test to come up with this, he used patched ball in all of them. He says that groups went from 1 and 1/2 inches at 75 yards to 2 and 1/2 inches and a bit more by the time that the 2,000th shot was fired. He tried using a thicker patch, which helped a little and larger balls but the best accuracy was gone forever. This was in .50 cal guns. He also said that it took about 100 rounds for the new barrels to group well.
He thinks the patch may serve to lap the barrel causing wear.
I think I will shoot short conicals and not patched RB if my gun will shoot them well.
He thinks the patch may serve to lap the barrel causing wear.
I think I will shoot short conicals and not patched RB if my gun will shoot them well.
#20
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern Chautauqua Co. N.Y.
Posts: 2,976
I have been reading "The Complete Black Powder Handbook" by Sam Fadala, copyright 1979 by DBI Books, Inc, Northfield, IL. He has a chapter on accuracy, in it he says that after 1,000 rounds accuracy begins to deteriorate. He used three rifles in a test to come up with this, he used patched ball in all of them. He says that groups went from 1 and 1/2 inches at 75 yards to 2 and 1/2 inches and a bit more by the time that the 2,000th shot was fired. He tried using a thicker patch, which helped a little and larger balls but the best accuracy was gone forever. This was in .50 cal guns. He also said that it took about 100 rounds for the new barrels to group well.
He thinks the patch may serve to lap the barrel causing wear.
I think I will shoot short conicals and not patched RB if my gun will shoot them well.
He thinks the patch may serve to lap the barrel causing wear.
I think I will shoot short conicals and not patched RB if my gun will shoot them well.
(BP)