hawkin
 

I've had one for awhile.now and never shot it. Any hints as to what i shor shoot out of it?.

Who made it?




btw..Hawken. :)

yeah mr! thats Hawken. Git'r right or git rid'uh'er

Many of the newer Hawken rifles had a 1-48 twist but there are some strange ones out there also. And they normally shoot a patched round ball real good. I would first identify the twist of the rifle. then if it is a 1-48 or 1-66 load 80 grains of 2f Pyrodex Rs powder and a .015 patched roundball and see how well it shoots at 25 yards. Good luck with your rifle.

Also I commonly misspell the word Hawken as Hawkins. But I never let that bother me. Neither should you. Many people use the word Hawkins to describe their rifles.

It's a t/c hawken

Are parched round balls my only option? Pyrodex my only option?

full bore conicals, like great plains, home cast lee reals, Buffalo bullets, and a few others.

I have not work whole lot of work with sabots out of traditional rifles. some others have.

I have tried real black powder, triple 7, pyrodex rs, and pyrodex p have been used in my hawken (hawkins)

I personally like 3f powders in sidelocks.

In a percussion model, you can use, IN LOOSE ONLY FORM... American Pioneer Powder, Triple Seven, Pyrodex RS, Pyrodex P, Jim Shockey Gold 2&3f, Pinnacle, Goex, or any black powder for that matter, just about any powder out there EXCEPT Blackhorn 209.

As for projectiles, you can shoot round ball, conical bullets, ball-ets, even sabots. I shoot a 250 grain XTP out of my Hawkens rifle with good accuracy. You can shoot powerbelts, Thors, and any of the other conicals on the market like maxi ball, maxi hunter, etc. Some will shoot better then others.

What caliber, as T/C Hawken Rifles could be had in .45, .50,.54 caliber? You could also order a .58 caliber through the T/C Custom Shop.

As was said already the PRB is not your only option, but they are usually very accurate out of the TC Hawken.

I assume by where you live you're hunting whitetails? The PRB will be good out to 100yds safely if it's a .50 cal. A .54 cal another 25 yds or so.

The heavy conicals will have more energy, but the recoil is higher, and i've never found them to be as accurate as a PRB.

You can use all the BP substitutes, and of course real black powder. (my favorite). You don't seem to like Pyrodex, but it's a good consistent powder for sidelocks like yours. I would use the Pyrodex P if you plan to use it. It has a little more power than the Pyrodex RS, and seems to ignite easier. After you pour the powder down the barrel.........lean it in the direction of the hammer/cap, and give the barrel a few taps. It will help get the powder in the breech channel. Make sure the hammer is at half cock when you do this so the air will push out. Do this no matter what powder you use.

Try 80 gr of Pyro P with a PRB to start. Add 5gr at a time until you lose accuracy. Then go back 5gr. That will be your hunting load. Don't go over 110gr. Remington #11 caps work the best for me.

.490 or .495 with the .015 patch?

.490 unless the .495 will fit. The .495 usually uses a .010 patch.

Unless it's a .45 or a .54... :)

I found the .490 with a .015-020 patch worked the best. I purchase cotton pillow tick at Wal Mart. Its .018 thick and all cotton. I make a moose milk lube and it works real good with patched roundball.

If you have close shots, like 50 and under and want to shoot a conical, try a REAL conical. You cast them yourself. Smear some bore butter around them. And put 70 grains of powder under them. They really knock the snot out of a deer.

Is it a flintlock or percussion? If its a flintlock, I would only use Black Powder. (FFg for .50 cal or FFFg if .45 cal). Percussion, you can use black powder or as a substitute I would recommend Pyrodex RS or P. As for a projectile you can try patched round balls, Maxiballs, or T/C Shockwaves in 250 or 300 gr. Powerbelts either have a good following or are hated for lack of performance on game.

Actually, "poached" roundballs might work better, they aren't so dry!....LOL:D
In reality, both of my T/C Hawken rifles shoot "patched" roundballs well but don't be afraid to try a cast conical like T/C's Maxi-Ball, Maxi-Hunter or the Lee Real bullet like the others have mentioned. Use a bore button (felt wad of appropriate caliber) between the powder charge and the cast conical bullet...not with a sabot or powerbelt. Try different propellants, Black powder, Pyrodex, Triple 7, etc. as well as different patch, ball, and lube combos until you find out what your frontstuffer likes the taste of. That's a T/C Hawken you got there Pilgrim, one of the finest American made muzzleloaders there is. Take good care of it and keep er' clean and you'll be blessed with many years of shooting enjoyment!...:happy0001:..BPS

TC Hawkin
 

I dont have a Hawken but I do have a Renegade. It has been a wall display for at least 5 years. I pulled off the rack swabbed out the barrel ran a seasoned patched down it and loaded 100 gr FFG black powder and loaded a Maxi-Hunter and shot a 3 inch group at 50 yards off rest. Gonna hunt late muzzeloader with it. Bought gun in 1983, it never would shoot round balls only maxi hunters or heavier maxi balls. My go to muzzeloader is a Encore that is shoots 200 yd. what a difference in guns!!

t/c hawkins 50 cal flintlock
 

i have not been on in longtime.good to see my friends here.

.50 cal t/c hawkins flintlock is what i have from 1969.
tried just about everything.
all good info on here, i learned a lot here over years too.

some points to save you a lot of trouble.
again only my experiences over year.
in the 1-48 twist i have found that hawkins does not handle the MAXI-HUNTERS well.to make it short,JUST DONT USE THEM.
but use the MAXI-BALL. they come in 370 grains.

this is bullet that tompson used at factory.one they rec.
i like around 80 grs for hunting.also what they rec to use.
i use GEOX 2F .but i am going to 3f this summer.
i bought 25 lbs of 3f.using 3f you have to reduce charge.
so stay with 2f.

use BORE BUTTON under your maxi-ball.
this keeps the bore butter off your powder and helps seal the bore.

if you use roundball, i use .490 ,.018 patch .i LIKE 70 grains of 2f.

my FAVORITE BULLET IS 295 powerbelt .i also just use 80 grs of 2f.
never load a PB hot .it has hollow point and will open on deer fine at 70 grs to 80 grs .
with PB i dont have to use BORE BUTTER in winter.
BB can freeze in cold and is messy in cold, so i use PB.

many here have great info and all work.

46 years using only hawkins .50 cal so i wasted a lot of money and time,which was fun too MAKING MISTAKES.

what i have given you is info i learned in all those years .