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johnnyo 12-15-2011 09:45 AM

PA conicals
 
Picked up a box of PA Conicals (240gr) yesterday. Put a few down range today, with the Woodsman Hawken. Worked up from 80 to 100grs of 2F Goex. 100grs being the tightest group and also the load recommended on the box. Thought about bumping the load to 105-110 grs... but,

1) Max load for the Woodsman is 110gr 2F - for PRB.

2) Should I be concerned about leading without a wad?

I'm getting under 2" groups with 100gr (pics coming) at 50 yards

Muley Hunter 12-15-2011 09:51 AM

You'll need to do a little extra cleaning compared to a PRB, but not that bad. No worse than a CF gun.

mountaineer magic 12-15-2011 09:57 AM

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Gotbuck 12-15-2011 09:59 AM

I do not think that leading is an issue, they have cleaners that take care of that. I think if you have a bore brush you will be fine. What twist rate is your gun? Those are good groups. Is the max charge you have at 110 grains based on a certain bullet weight? I think the posted max charges are all based on a certain bullet weight for your gun, if you go over that posted bullet weight back the charge down a bit and you should be fine, just saying.

EndeavorShooter 12-15-2011 09:59 AM

I have always used a wad when shooting conicles. Doesn't mean it is rightor wrong, that is one that is going to be your call.

johnnyo 12-15-2011 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Gotbuck (Post 3890225)
I do not think that leading is an issue, they have cleaners that take care of that. I think if you have a bore brush you will be fine. What twist rate is your gun? Those are good groups. Is the max charge you have at 110 grains based on a certain bullet weight? I think the posted max charges are all based on a certain bullet weight for your gun, if you go over that posted bullet weight back the charge down a bit and you should be fine, just saying.

1:48 twist.

Max. charge for PRB is 110gr 2F, 105 3F. The PA's are 240gr, so I didn't want to push the limit. The manual doesn't give a max. charge for conicals.

corey012778 12-15-2011 10:15 AM

does not hurt to test with wads. I have some gun/conicals combo that don't group well with out wads. where I have other gun/conicals combos that group the same or just a little better with or with out.

open sight at 50yrds, 2 in groups sounds good to me.

johnnyo 12-15-2011 10:23 AM

2 Attachment(s)
All groups shot a 50 yards.

johnnyo 12-15-2011 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by mountaineer magic (Post 3890224)
I use 110 gr 777 with a 425 gr conical and never had a problem. I never use a wad in this gun

I have some 3F, T7 that I should try.

johnnyo 12-15-2011 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by corey012778 (Post 3890241)
does not hurt to test with wads. I have some gun/conicals combo that don't group well with out wads. where I have other gun/conicals combos that group the same or just a little better with or with out.

open sight at 50yrds, 2 in groups sounds good to me.

No problem with the groups and they load slick!


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