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bronko22000 12-07-2011 07:04 PM

Dave, every target you post with that white is a pretty target. As much as I prefer the sidelocks over the inlines I may just have to buy a white if I ever come across one.

Semisane 12-07-2011 07:10 PM

Now you're talking Bronko. I want one of those White barrels in a sidelock. Or even better, an underhammer.

builder459 12-07-2011 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3886568)
DAMMIT Cayugad! You keep posting those White targets and I keep saying "I don't need a White - I don't need a White". I guess I'll have to get some of those 460's and see if I can get one of my guns to shoot them. What's the twist rate on that gun?

Semi, you don't need a White to get groups like that with conicals. my $150.00 wolverine with 75 gr pyrodex,.460 gr NE groups like that. i have also seen some excellent 100 yd groups from the new Knight bighorns with the .460 gr conicals.

cayugad 12-07-2011 07:25 PM

Doc White did build traditional rifles with the White .504 barrels. They were made to shoot conicals. The one I was looking at had a nice steel egg lock, and beautiful wood. If I remember right the target sights on it were able to shoot out to 600 yards. That should keep someone busy.

WV Hunter 12-08-2011 04:08 AM

Darn good shootin cayugad! :)

nit wit 12-08-2011 04:41 AM

You need a White
 
I have had a whitetail G series .451 for years. I have taken moose and deer with one shot kills. I use the lyman .451 495 grain volunteer bullets that I hand cast. These are great and are cheap to shoot. I use 70 gr. of 3f black powder. I have a weaver 4 power scope with an open circle at the crosshairs. I have given some thought to converting to 209 primers.
I write a bp column so I have lots of in-lines and I think the white is the best all round in-line on the market.
Good shootin!
Nit Wit

cayugad 12-08-2011 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by nit wit (Post 3886783)
I have had a whitetail G series .451 for years. I have taken moose and deer with one shot kills. I use the lyman .451 495 grain volunteer bullets that I hand cast. These are great and are cheap to shoot. I use 70 gr. of 3f black powder. I have a weaver 4 power scope with an open circle at the crosshairs. I have given some thought to converting to 209 primers.
I write a bp column so I have lots of in-lines and I think the white is the best all round in-line on the market.
Good shootin!
Nit Wit

On the Lyman mold, do you have to do any sizing down? Or does the mold throw a true 451? That mold sounds like one I would be interested in. I currently cast a 405 grain flat point which does a pretty good job.

Semisane 12-08-2011 06:42 AM


I use the lyman .451 495 grain volunteer bullets that I hand cast.
Hey there Nit Wit. Welcome to the forum.

I looked up that mold on the Lyman site. It sure looks like a nice bullet. But DANG, those molds are expensive. I'd hate to buy one then find the bullet won't shoot well for me. How about a deal? I can send you 20 pounds of pure soft lead in 1.5 lb. ingots if you send a few dozen of those bullets to me and a few dozen to Cayugad to try. If you're interested, shoot me a PM.


mountaineer magic 12-08-2011 06:59 AM

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Semisane 12-08-2011 07:03 AM

I may be looking at the wrong mold. I picked that one because it said it was for the Volunteer rifles.


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