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corey012778 12-02-2011 07:19 PM

an shock from another forum
 
I was going to break my silence after my range session next week with my flinter, but i was reading on another forum. this guy painted an camo stock CVA HunterBolt Magnum 50cal metallic BLUE. I am saving up for an new 45cal m/ler. but I am thinking about making an offer on the gun just to redo the stock and resale to break even.

what should I offer this guy? I think you can pick those rifles up for around $100 or so used.

Breechplug 12-03-2011 01:00 AM

I think I only paid $150 for mine New, that thing is one Heck of a Shooter wuth 150gr's. Why in the Heck would anyone paint there ML Stock Metalic Blue!
(BP)

stretch56 12-03-2011 04:24 AM

My opinion a $100. is too much for a used Hunterbolt.
My first muzzle loader was a Hunterbolt Mag. I paid $179. for it.
2 barrels 45 & 50 Cal. Camo stock & nickel barrels.

blow back & trigger pull is terrorable.
It will shoot decent groups though.

corey012778 12-03-2011 07:30 AM

figured I would offer $100 shipped as my top offer. still can't get over the blue paint job

Underclocked 12-03-2011 07:50 AM

Corey, why would you even concern yourself with the rifle??

halfbakedi420 12-03-2011 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Underclocked (Post 3884689)
Corey, why would you even concern yourself with the rifle??

X2...step away from the bong.

donjose 12-03-2011 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by halfbakedi420 (Post 3884717)
X2...step away from the bong.

Now thats funny..................

corey012778 12-03-2011 03:06 PM

I say I must likely won't get it guy was wanting $150 for it. oh, well my money goes to something better any way. ;)

at the rate i am gathering funds and just got an bill me later account. the 45cal accura i am wanting is still on table

Breechplug 12-03-2011 03:44 PM

Now dont underestimate the Hunter Bolt Mag, i know it's a CVA....but that Baby can shoot a Mag Load of 150grs and is Accurate as Heck. I sold Mine to My Brother In Law and Wish I never did, I probably would'nt have used it much anymore because of My ACCURA, but for the Money It did'nt owe Me a Dime and took some Nice Deer for the Freezer for Me.
If you can get it for $100 I'd buy it, Im sure the Paing Job will come of with a little Laquer thinner.
(BP)

corey012778 12-03-2011 03:52 PM

read a little more on that thread, he is going to keep it.

I have no problem with cva's. I have win apex aka cva kodiak, and love it. was going to just buy the thing, may have just put a few rounds down range. stripped the paint and sold it just to get my money back.

Breechplug 12-03-2011 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by corey012778 (Post 3884833)
read a little more on that thread, he is going to keep it.

I have no problem with cva's. I have win apex aka cva kodiak, and love it. was going to just buy the thing, may have just put a few rounds down range. stripped the paint and sold it just to get my money back.

Seems like a-lot of work just to get your Money Back, but if your Bored and like playing around then I can understand. I also have 2 Kodiaks, a regular Blued Barrel with a Mossy Oak Camo Stock (Never seen another:)) and a Kodiak Pro with with a SS Fluted Barrel, both shoot great, but I dont like that the Trigger Mech stays attached to the Barrel and you cant remove them when you clean, other than that there fine.
If you want to Buy a Muzzy, wait untill after the Season ends, there will be some good Deals out there and even on some New Models.
(BP)

corey012778 12-03-2011 04:11 PM

if you remove the three hex screws on the side of trigger mech and with flat head screw driver, gentle shimmy at the hammer area and down by trigger. you can open it and take the mech off. I had to do it recently. planning on being part of my detail cleaning, which i do every 6months.

omegasmoke 12-04-2011 02:53 PM

Boy Corey, you must really hate the color blue to want to go through that hassle for nothing.

hunt12ga 12-04-2011 03:12 PM

My dad got a .45 Kodiak camo/ss a while back. I brought it home one day to try some BH in it. The trigger was INSANE! I shot a 3" group at 50y and doubt I could do better with that trigger. Anyone else have that problem?

rw

MountainDevil54 12-04-2011 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by hunt12ga (Post 3885218)
My dad got a .45 Kodiak camo/ss a while back. I brought it home one day to try some BH in it. The trigger was INSANE! I shot a 3" group at 50y and doubt I could do better with that trigger. Anyone else have that problem?

rw

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corey012778 12-04-2011 04:21 PM

I am not an big fan of none hunting color stocks. black, wood, or even camo stocks are good. but the blue is awful, to each his own

if you brave enough you can take the trigger mech apart.

Breechplug 12-04-2011 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by corey012778 (Post 3884841)
if you remove the three hex screws on the side of trigger mech and with flat head screw driver, gentle shimmy at the hammer area and down by trigger. you can open it and take the mech off. I had to do it recently. planning on being part of my detail cleaning, which i do every 6months.

I talked to Mark at CVA once about the Kodiak, and He told Me to Never Ever take off the Trigger Mech for Cleaning, and to Absolutely Never try to Dissassemble the Trigger Mech or I'd be sending it back to CVA for Repairs. It was Not ment to be Removed from the Barrel.
(BP)

Breechplug 12-04-2011 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by hunt12ga (Post 3885218)
My dad got a .45 Kodiak camo/ss a while back. I brought it home one day to try some BH in it. The trigger was INSANE! I shot a 3" group at 50y and doubt I could do better with that trigger. Anyone else have that problem?

rw

I dont have a 50cal Kodiak, but 2 50cals, both I used 150grs in as back then I was on the More Powder is More Power thing. Even then with 150grs I have No problem getting a 1" group at 50yds with them.
You have to try Different Powder Amounts and Different Bulets, along with Different Primers to Find the Sweet Load that ML Likes, no 2 MLers are the same, it's up to You to find what She Likes.
(BP)

corey012778 12-04-2011 04:56 PM

it was an last resort for me, i don't see why you could not do it. there are only an total of maybe 9 part in the mech. 4 pins, 1 trigger spring, trigger, hammer, hammer spring, and trigger guard/lever. the 3 hex head screws is all that holds it together. as long as you are careful when putting back together, everything is aligned. take your time while taking it apart and back together.

corey012778 12-04-2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by hunt12ga (Post 3885218)
My dad got a .45 Kodiak camo/ss a while back. I brought it home one day to try some BH in it. The trigger was INSANE! I shot a 3" group at 50y and doubt I could do better with that trigger. Anyone else have that problem?

rw

I have an win apex 45cal which is the same thing as the kodiak. I trigger fills great. I have shot very little bh209 in it. the blow back factor. i may need an new breech plug. try some spraying some oil up into the sear should be able to see it with an good flash light. maybe md's graphite treatment would work too

Breechplug 12-04-2011 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by corey012778 (Post 3885276)
I have an win apex 45cal which is the same thing as the kodiak. I trigger fills great. I have shot very little bh209 in it. the blow back factor. i may need an new breech plug. try some spraying some oil up into the sear should be able to see it with an good flash light. maybe md's graphite treatment would work too

I just leave the Trigger Assembly Attached, I spray it down with some Birchwood Casey Barricade and Im done with it. I dont Shoot the Crap out of any of My MLers, Once Im Sighted in Im Good, I Load, Hunt, Shoot and Clean. There's usually only one or two shots through it befor a Cleaning. Other than the Befor the Season Sight in Check My MLers are Seldome Shot, there taken apart after each Shot or Two and Look like Brand New at all times. The most times I ever shoot them is if I get a New Scope, then I may Fire them 10-15 Times if that, after that it's 1-2 Shots, Clean and that's it.
In the Summer it's the same way if I go after Wood Chucks, I shoot one or two, then Clean. I have never gone to the Range and just shot, then go again and shoot, or try this and shoot and keep shooting. Once I have My MLer all set up and Sighted in, it's ready for when I need it, one or two shots...it's not a Rifle or a Shotgun where you just go out and Blast away and shoot it a-lot. It's a One Shot, Seldome Shot, Shooting Machine. If I shoot any of My MLers more than 10 Times a Year and that includes checking to see if Im on and then Hunting, then that's a-lot.
Im too busy through the Not Hunting season to just Paly around with My Mlers, as Much as I Love Them I know once there sighted in, I have the right bullett and powder combo that it likes and they shoot 1" groups what more could I ask for.
So far this Hunting Season I Shot My Accura 4 times, I shot 3 times at a target befor the season to see if all was good, it was, then I shot a Big Doe.
It's the same with My Bow, I do shoot it a little more to stay in the Game, but once I know what it likes it's good. If everything I shoot is Perfect Im not one to change anything, you can Buy this or that and try this and that, but once you find what everything likes why keep going....Nothing New will make You a Better Hunter if what You already have is Dead On. No New Powder, or Bullett is going to Bring Down that Trophy You have been after, it's your Skill and a-lot of Luck that will do it. If what you have is Dead why Try and Fix what's Not Broke.
(BP)

corey012778 12-04-2011 06:40 PM

should of said with the trigger assembly on the barrel. normally, i just spray the assembly with an break free and rem oil. may switch to spray can kroil for trigger group lubing.

Breechplug 12-04-2011 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by corey012778 (Post 3885333)
should of said with the trigger assembly on the barrel. normally, i just spray the assembly with an break free and rem oil. may switch to spray can kroil for trigger group lubing.

Got ya......If the Trigger Assembly is suspect to being Dirty I will Sray it with some Carbuerator Cleaner or Brake Cleaner, then Rince, Dry and Oil it.
(BP)

corey012778 12-04-2011 06:57 PM

back on topic of the guy with the blue stock, guy is being an real jerk about it now. he is wanting $150 for the gun shipped because of all the "new' parts on it.

back to the sub topic if need be lol

omegasmoke 12-05-2011 03:10 PM

How about blue wood?
http://www.stockysstocks.com/catalog/standardcolors.jpg

corey012778 12-05-2011 08:42 PM

I like the ones that have more of wood color look to them. i guess i am just an basic stock kinda guy.


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