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#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
Posts: 3,732

As one who has workings with my hands to make a living most of my life, i cannot begrudge another for trying to get a fair price for their work. These 'expensive' rifle probably worth more than what they are asking. Wife has tried to sell my hand made products at craft shows, but doesn't try any longer. She has priced my work for far less than they are worth to me, but they still don't sell. People pick up my work, and open drawers, and feel the finish, and make comments like, wow, this sure is nicely made etc. In the end, they end up purchasing something similar at Walmart.
If one really thinks on it, it could be that rifles like the Accura, are over priced, considering what labor costs are where they are made. It could be the Mountaineer is under priced, considering labor costs. I am not saying, i am just saying.
#22
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585

Perhaps those who buy that foreign stuff don't realize they are selling this countries jobs. I have heard one person who drives a foreign car shoots a foreign gun buys foreign cameos complain about the company he worked for moving out and him losing his job. Even losing his job did not teach him where the problem is.
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kerrville, Tx. USA
Posts: 2,722

Knight moutaineer or LRH. T/C products are first rate as long as you only shoot sabots (no conical bullets).
The QLA (false muzzle) on the T/C products make shooting conicals a 50/50 proposition at best. Some will and some wont shoot them. See my thread on my Omega shooting conicals for an example: http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/ph...ic.php?t=20999
Never shot a Triumph, but as I understand it, they have the same QLA as the Omega. IF you call T/C, they will say the Triumph/Omega is for sabots and they won't guarantee accuracy for conicals.
The QLA (false muzzle) on the T/C products make shooting conicals a 50/50 proposition at best. Some will and some wont shoot them. See my thread on my Omega shooting conicals for an example: http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/ph...ic.php?t=20999
Never shot a Triumph, but as I understand it, they have the same QLA as the Omega. IF you call T/C, they will say the Triumph/Omega is for sabots and they won't guarantee accuracy for conicals.
#27
#29

Jason on the other hand was one frustrated person with a whole bunch of problems with Knight. Even that has been taken or is being taken care of. All he had to do was contact Knight - which he did.
I talked to him yesterday and he was feeling better about the whole thing - he had some other problems in play that accelerated his frustration and it was not associated with Knight.
But it would be nice if you would not fabricate stuff to fit your needs when things are not going your way.