Blackhorn 209 VS Pyrodex RS Pellets in a Knight Disc
11-12-2011, 01:02 PM
#12
Dominant Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 21,193
Originally Posted by donjose
I am sure you know this Dave but compress the load and you need a tight fitting sabot and I think your problems will go away.............
I was shooting a MMP HPH-24. I fear if I go to a MMP HPH-12 it will be too tight. And impossible to load. But I will try to see if I can force some down the barrel. And I was using a good T handle stainless steel woodgoat range rod and really giving them a good press. Maybe that is what I forgot to do on that second POOF, but I was sure I had compressed it good.
Whitetail deer make nice orderly pellets too. So do rabbits.
11-12-2011, 01:58 PM
#13
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: new jersey
Posts: 48
Blackhorn needs a good tight sabot or it will just go poof have the same problem with my night krb7 can't shoot any so called easy load sabot bullet combos or else it will just go poof thats even with the cci mag primers
11-12-2011, 02:19 PM
#14
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Boncarbo,Colorado
Posts: 9,186
vey surprised its hang firing with the lehigh plug. I shoot powerbelts which load very easily and bh209 does perfect. Got to me something with either plug fouling in the flash channel or just needs the cci mag primers.
11-12-2011, 02:33 PM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
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I was not happy to hear about your two "fizzing" rounds.
I have had two range sessions with the BH-209 so far. And I have not expereinced any "fizzles" yet. I also use W-209's as welll. I also bought one of the conversions for my Knight LRH so I din't have to use the red jackets.
So far so GREAT with the BH powder for me. The rifle is shooting clover leaf patterns at 50 yards(farthest I have been able to shoot so far). With no misfires, and lots of shooting without cleaning, just a patch or two while shooting.
I know you do things right, so I am disappointed in hearing about the fizzles.
What do you think caused the "Fizzles"?? You must have some theory??
Good shooting, Tom.
I have had two range sessions with the BH-209 so far. And I have not expereinced any "fizzles" yet. I also use W-209's as welll. I also bought one of the conversions for my Knight LRH so I din't have to use the red jackets.
So far so GREAT with the BH powder for me. The rifle is shooting clover leaf patterns at 50 yards(farthest I have been able to shoot so far). With no misfires, and lots of shooting without cleaning, just a patch or two while shooting.
I know you do things right, so I am disappointed in hearing about the fizzles.
What do you think caused the "Fizzles"?? You must have some theory??
Good shooting, Tom.
11-12-2011, 02:46 PM
#17
Dominant Buck
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The first fizzle MIGHT have been caused by the way I prepared the rifle. I swabbed with alcohol to remove any oil in the bore. Maybe I did not get all the oil out of the bore. But I did pop two primers into a dry patch before I loaded. Next time I will be even more careful.
The second fizzle I have no idea. Everything was shooting fine. All the loading was fine. And after the second happened, I did not clean out the rifle because I was sure that the projectile did exit the bore because I heard it. And I blew down the bore with my little gadget and could hear air pass through the breech plug.
Also if you notice the target.. the first three hits before the second fizzle were very tight. The fizzle happened. Then the next two were not quite as tight as the first three. So maybe the fizzle caused the bore to get extra dirty.
Would it hurt to swab the bore with solvent, while shooting Blackhorn 209 if you have concerns of fouling in the bore? The first solvent patch comes out FILTHY!! I noticed when I cleaned for the pellets.
The second fizzle I have no idea. Everything was shooting fine. All the loading was fine. And after the second happened, I did not clean out the rifle because I was sure that the projectile did exit the bore because I heard it. And I blew down the bore with my little gadget and could hear air pass through the breech plug.
Also if you notice the target.. the first three hits before the second fizzle were very tight. The fizzle happened. Then the next two were not quite as tight as the first three. So maybe the fizzle caused the bore to get extra dirty.
Would it hurt to swab the bore with solvent, while shooting Blackhorn 209 if you have concerns of fouling in the bore? The first solvent patch comes out FILTHY!! I noticed when I cleaned for the pellets.
11-12-2011, 03:13 PM
#18
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
One of the advantages is you don't have to swab with BH 209, and you don't lose accuracy. All my guns have shot terrible with a clean bore.
My first shot will be 6" high and off line with a clean bore. After that is settles down and will group the same with as much as 50 shots with no swabbing. It actually starts to load easier too.
Do not think of the fouling in the barrel as any other sub or BP. It's doing no harm.
The secret to consistent ignition and groups is in the BP and primer.
My first shot will be 6" high and off line with a clean bore. After that is settles down and will group the same with as much as 50 shots with no swabbing. It actually starts to load easier too.
Do not think of the fouling in the barrel as any other sub or BP. It's doing no harm.
The secret to consistent ignition and groups is in the BP and primer.
11-12-2011, 03:23 PM
#20
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 369
Originally Posted by cayugad
The first fizzle MIGHT have been caused by the way I prepared the rifle. I swabbed with alcohol to remove any oil in the bore. Maybe I did not get all the oil out of the bore. But I did pop two primers into a dry patch before I loaded. Next time I will be even more careful.
The second fizzle I have no idea. Everything was shooting fine. All the loading was fine. And after the second happened, I did not clean out the rifle because I was sure that the projectile did exit the bore because I heard it. And I blew down the bore with my little gadget and could hear air pass through the breech plug.
Also if you notice the target.. the first three hits before the second fizzle were very tight. The fizzle happened. Then the next two were not quite as tight as the first three. So maybe the fizzle caused the bore to get extra dirty.
Would it hurt to swab the bore with solvent, while shooting Blackhorn 209 if you have concerns of fouling in the bore? The first solvent patch comes out FILTHY!! I noticed when I cleaned for the pellets.
The second fizzle I have no idea. Everything was shooting fine. All the loading was fine. And after the second happened, I did not clean out the rifle because I was sure that the projectile did exit the bore because I heard it. And I blew down the bore with my little gadget and could hear air pass through the breech plug.
Also if you notice the target.. the first three hits before the second fizzle were very tight. The fizzle happened. Then the next two were not quite as tight as the first three. So maybe the fizzle caused the bore to get extra dirty.
Would it hurt to swab the bore with solvent, while shooting Blackhorn 209 if you have concerns of fouling in the bore? The first solvent patch comes out FILTHY!! I noticed when I cleaned for the pellets.
