Real BP, T7, and Shockey's all clean up with water and soap. I don't understand why you don't want to use BP? Water will not hurt your barrel as long as you keep it lubed after cleaning. Most all sidelocks are cleaned with water.

Another option is Pyrodex P. It ignites easier than T7. I wouldn't shoot Shockey's if you paid me, so I have no advice for that crap.

I'll ask again. Are you using musket caps? If not, and you're using #11 caps. The Remington caps are hotter than some of the others, but your gun is suppose to use musket caps. I'd use those.

You'd have to change to an #11 nipple to use #11 caps, but don't bother. The musket caps are better.

As a follow up to my above post. Are you sure you're getting the breech channel clean? Are you hitting the barrel to get the powder flowing into it. Nipple nice and clean?

Nothing cleans better than pumping soap and water through the barrel. How do you clean?

Quite a few years ago, I bought a musket nipple and tried musket caps on me T/C Renegade using Pyrodex loose powder. Ignition was completely unrealiable. Sounds a lot like what you are describing.

You also say you are using BP subs and have switched away from cleaning with water? I always clean the renegade with water. First with the nipple in, and then with it out. I use a patch and like others have said, pump water in and out of the breech and nipple. I follow that up with boiling water to really heat the barrel, and normally a bit more fouling breaks loose. Then dry the barrel, then apply a very light coat of oil. Prior to shooting, remove oil with an alcohol patch.

I would try a #11 nipple and the hottest #11 caps you can get. I'll bet the gun will fire just fine with Pyrodex. Remember to compress the Pyrodex well.

I've never tried a musket cap. I assumed they had a hotter flame. I haven't heard they were unreliable. Are all the brands of musket caps unreliable?

I never have a problem with #11 Remington caps.

I disagree. My Nikon Monarch is pretty accurate as is my Burris FFII and they are both in that price range. It's just crappy scopes that don't track right. Every Leupold under $300 I've ever used has tracked horribly, which is one of the several reasons I don't buy them or recommend them anymore.

To some guys it doesn't matter what the adjustments are as they zero them and don't touch them. For others like me, in a lot of cases I like to be able to make adjustments in the field and it definitely matters. It's one of those things where I have had several cheaper scopes that didn't track well and I got by with them, but I much prefer one that is accurate. I've gotten rid of most of the ones that didn't track well, but I still have 2 of them.

That said I had a Prostaff before the Monarchs and while I never did a box test to see if it was repeatable, the adjustments were pretty close to 1/4" if not exact. It tracked fairly well for the $80 I paid for it.

I have a Black Mountain Magnum rifle. It has a musket cap ignition. I have never had a ignition problem with the rifle. I so shoot musket caps. So Big Bullets I am not sure what the problem might be. But that is one rifle that is suppose to shoot any powder, even pellets. So when you say you have an ignition problem with that rifle, I agree.. I would be concerned also.

Seem funny that T/C customer service loaded with black powder and then claimed no ignition problem. If the rifle were mine there is a few things I would try with the rifle to get it shooting, but then... I love to tinker.

I really do not know if I can set a price limit and say... scope under this level will or are more prone to adjustment problems. These cheap Simmons Pro Diamonds 4x32mm are $39.00 and they actually track real good. My Bushnell Banner is again, a cheaper (and I hate that word) scope and it works just fine. But I am keeping an eye on my Nikon Omega. Maybe it was just a bad day I was having. But its funny that the other day it behaved just perfect.

I hate that word too Cayugad. As you know, I'm a real fan of the 4X ProDiamond (have them on five guns) and like to refer to them as "good quality inexpensive scopes".

Even when I made a mistake and thought I was purchasing the Simmons Pro Diamond and instead for the Simmons Pro Sport (for less money)... those are on Knight LK rifles and they are shooting deadly accurate. You'd think the rifle would shake them apart.