Need some info from Knight owners
 

I finally found a Super Disc .45 cal. The tag on the gun said 1:20. The serial number was 005057 . I was under the impression that they switched the twist rate to 1:30 after serial number 005043. That would make this gun a 1:30 not a 1:20. When I check it with a patch and jag it does appear to be a 1:30 but I am hoping that I am not doing it right in checking the rifling. Does anyone know if the serial number change is correct? Would this gun be a 1:30?

This is what I got form Gordy...

Tom,
Serial number change for the .45 twist rate was anything prior to #2291 on mild steel and #5043 on stainless were 1:20 twist. Hope this helps.

Gordy Edwards


It really could be either, but by serial number it should be 1-30

Chet, If you are getting 1 in 30 when you check it, that must be what it is. There is no way you could be off 10 inches. I hope I am not right.
Art

Thats what I thought . It's a 1:30 even though the attached tag says 1:20. They probably used the preprinted cards even though they changed twist rates. That's a bummer. Hmmm.

The seller didn't verify it was a 1-20? Considering they are slightly collectible by a few of us, i would have thought he would have made sure he actually had a 1-20. I am only assuming the seller had these very basic skills to make sure or at least get a confirmation by email.

im the seller. I figured Knight had marked their guns properly. This gun was in the shop for years before i picked it up. Knight tagged the gun as 1:20.

He went by the tag attached to the gun . It says 1:20. The serial number is what caused me to check it.

Was it a tag from the Knight factory or something the gunshop or someone else put on it? I have bought a few new Knight rifles and don't remember any of them having a factory tag stating twist rate. I think I better stay out of this one. :s4:

factory tag. Shown here,


They listed the calibers, twist of rates for each gun.

Thats odd because not a single older NIB Knight ive bought had a twist rate on a tag attached anywhere. Including my Original 45cal.

Hopefully the seller will handle the issue to YOUR satisfaction.

I have to make a correction to what I said earlier. I found the factory tag from a Knight Bighorn I purchased a few years back and that tag did correctly state the twist rate on that rifle and yes it was printed from the factory. What a bummer that this rifle was not correctly labeled.

The Super DISC .45s were all based on the DISC Original design which used the Orange Primer DISCs and had the stock with a lot of drop at the recoil pad. I was doubtful when I saw the gun for the first time that is was indeed a 1:20. You did get a very nice stock.

I will double check my Original 45 when i get home tonite. It was NIB with everything and i kept it all.

is the gun up for sale and $

I know this is a rookie question but what's the advantage on the 1/20. Obviously a quicker spin, so what does this accomplish?

What can the 1/20 do that a 1/30 can't?

The faster spin stabilizes longer bullets. Each spin has a certain length range of bullets it can stabilize.

and the 1-20 twist can bring more $

I had planned on trying some long range shooting . I have some 45 cal 460 gr, some cast 538 gr conicals, 540 gr paper patch, some 40 cal 250 gr dead center sabot and a couple other bullets I wanted to try to work with and I believe the 1:20 twist is the answer. The 1:30 won't stabilize the 538 or 540 for sure. Possibly the 460 it would.Oh I forgot Parker has a new 325 gr match hnter that I think would be really accurate in a 1:20

Exactly. I only paid as much as I did because it was suppose to be a 1:20. you can get a 1:30 a lot cheaper

I hate to hear that man, I hope the seller makes it right.

538 gr conical? Are you planning a Cape Buffalo hunt?

it ought to put the hurt on whatever it hits. I bet if you hit a deer with it he wont make it into the swamp.:biggrin:

For the record I dont blame the devil for the mix up because the gun did have a Knight tag on it that says 1:20 twist> If I had picked up a gun in a gun shop with the tag I would expect it to have the twist that it says, I wouldnt have checked either. The question is who should correct this. Should Knight since they mislabeled it or MD since I bought it from him. Thats the big question. Personally i think Knight has an obligation to stand behind what has their name on it. :s2:I guess we will see what happens.After all it is new . it came from a gun shop. It's not like it is a used gun from someone.

Have no worries Chet, we'll get this worked out ASAP.

I shoot a 525 grain bullet that I cast from an RCBS mold in my Knight 50 caliber MK-85. The bullet is devastating on deer. And also very deadly on elk. I shot a large New Mexico 5X5 with the bullet. It worked tremendously.

I cast it from lead I was given that was taken out of Church windows. So I call it Holy lead. I would tell you how many grains of 3F BP I load but you would call me nuts. But needless to say the recoil is extreme. I have torn and bloodied my thumb webbing several times with the load. Tom.

Be careful. Some guys have said they got a detached retina from heavy loads.

My eyes are fine. Problem is I suffered brain damage!! That was when I really started craving StrawBerry Jam. Tom.

oh, well now that we all believe! :D

Well this will be a good one to see what they do!!!