traditional vs. modern
10-13-2011, 07:48 PM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tennessee
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I don't have even the I'm sure you can relate to conversatons with yourself
10-13-2011, 08:22 PM
#24
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
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45 SMLs give you the largest variety of projectile and powder choices of any ML i can imagine. You can shoot big lead conicals with subs/Real black. You can shoot sabotless 45s upto 2500fps with ease and even BH209 makes excellent fps used this way. Plus of course 45x40 sabots past 2800 fps and it will handle the heavier 40s like the PR QTs or DCs even better than slower twist sub guns.
50cal SMLs can do many of the same things very well except shooting 50x40s usually and sabotless is a bigger PITA since the sizing dies are pretty much custom order only. My NULA though is a nice light gun that shoots sabots/bullets in the 225-275gr range fantastic upto 2300fps and never needs more than 43gr of powder.
It was the one that sparked my interest just because its so light and recoil is surprisingly mild. The Savage 50 barely got my attention compared to the GMB54 for hunting.
50cal SMLs can do many of the same things very well except shooting 50x40s usually and sabotless is a bigger PITA since the sizing dies are pretty much custom order only. My NULA though is a nice light gun that shoots sabots/bullets in the 225-275gr range fantastic upto 2300fps and never needs more than 43gr of powder.
It was the one that sparked my interest just because its so light and recoil is surprisingly mild. The Savage 50 barely got my attention compared to the GMB54 for hunting.
Last edited by Gm54-120; 10-13-2011 at 08:33 PM.
10-14-2011, 01:05 AM
#26
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Central Connecticut
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I mostly use traditional guns when target shooting at the range.
And only a modern scoped inline for BP deer hunting.
It sure is a joy to be able to use a scoped inline compared to the old days before the hunting regulations were rewritten to allow both magnifying scopes and inlines.
Prior to that, muzzle loading was the earliest firearms deer season here while now it's at the very end.
And only a modern scoped inline for BP deer hunting.
It sure is a joy to be able to use a scoped inline compared to the old days before the hunting regulations were rewritten to allow both magnifying scopes and inlines.
Prior to that, muzzle loading was the earliest firearms deer season here while now it's at the very end.
Last edited by arcticap; 10-14-2011 at 01:14 AM.
10-14-2011, 04:45 AM
#27
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
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A smokeless muzzleloader is the biggest abortion i've ever seen.
It uses smokeless powder, a modern smokeless bullet, and a smokeless primer. All that's missing is the brass case. Which is replaced by the barrel. Then it's scoped like a smokeless scope. It even uses the trigger from a smokeless gun.
It belongs in the rifle season with all the rest of the smokeless guns. Which is the only place it's legal in Colorado. The states that allow it in ML season have their head up their azz.
My unbiased opinion.
It uses smokeless powder, a modern smokeless bullet, and a smokeless primer. All that's missing is the brass case. Which is replaced by the barrel. Then it's scoped like a smokeless scope. It even uses the trigger from a smokeless gun.
It belongs in the rifle season with all the rest of the smokeless guns. Which is the only place it's legal in Colorado. The states that allow it in ML season have their head up their azz.
My unbiased opinion.
10-14-2011, 04:52 AM
#28
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: northernwestern south dakota
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that was kinda where i was getting to muley, is muzzleloading even muzzleloading, i mean we can jack up loads and have scopes with drop points out to 250 yrds, can you believe it. It defeats the purpose of muzzleloading IN MY OPINION.
10-14-2011, 05:12 AM
#29
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,037
The purpose of muzzleloading varies greatly from shooter to shooter. I am kind of stuck in the middle. My inlines are plunger guns with #11 caps. I also have a Great Plains rifle. You know if I lived further West where longer shots seem to be the norm I might be interested in one of the newer rifles to expand my range. Where I hunt a 100 yard shot rarely presents itself.
I just don't get my undies in a bundle over what someone else wants to shoot.
I just don't get my undies in a bundle over what someone else wants to shoot.
10-14-2011, 05:14 AM
#30
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
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The spirit of muzzleloading seems to be getting lost.
No matter. When i'm in the mountains alone with my GPR. It all seems right.
I'll be hun ting the GPR in the later rifle seasons from now on. I don't like the heat of the ML season. Sept is too early to be hunting.
Hunting with the smokeless rifle hunters isn't much different than hunting with the inlines hunters, so no big deal.
No matter. When i'm in the mountains alone with my GPR. It all seems right.
I'll be hun ting the GPR in the later rifle seasons from now on. I don't like the heat of the ML season. Sept is too early to be hunting.
Hunting with the smokeless rifle hunters isn't much different than hunting with the inlines hunters, so no big deal.