I agree that faster is not always the answer with a PRB. Getting close is more important, or if you must. Bigger ball.

They are a bit better than a PB though. They don't explode. At least pure lead doesn't. Not sure about those wheel weight balls.

Ok so I'm confused. Which is it 80 or 160 gr?

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Flintlocks
Always use Black Powder in the priming pan and for main charge in a flintlock. Use FFFFg priming powder in the pan for fastest flash and use FFFg or FFg for the main charge for best results. My prototype Manton style half stock flintlock rifle in 54 caliber, with 1-66 twist, loaded with a .530 caliber 220 grain round ball and .025 canvas patch, digests 80 gr FFFg Black powder superbly and fires as quickly as any percussion rifle.. This makes a terrific target load for the Rendezvous circuit as well as for round ball, flintlock hunting..

For hunting animals up to elk size, 160 grains FFg Black Powder is accurate with the same ball and patch and is a potent load at short range, up to 100 yards. Ignition with FFFFg in the pan of the Egg lock on the rifle is virtually instantaneous. It’s quick enough that an experienced shooter can unfailingly call his shots."

I understand the principles of roundballs but there seem's to be conflicting information out there.

On one hand we have 60gr good to 100-125 yds and on the other 160gr up to 100 yds. Huge variations here. I'm not doubting anyone just a little confused is all. Even White seems to contradict himself above saying 80 gr is fine then saying 160 is fine???

I think I'll stick with my 80-100gr loads.:throw:

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I didn't see where anyone on here mentioned 160grs of powder...

I mentioned 120grs of FF Goex, but that's not safe for some rifles...I have actually
shot 150grs of FF safely, but I am shooting a custom made rifle with a barrel that
is a 1 1/16 thick at the breach...

I typically use FFF powder for both the main charge and the prime...

Sorry not you. It was a quote from Doc White that was talking about 160 gr.

as you had mentioned earlier about soft lead and powerbelts I 'd imagine 160gr at close range might very well pancake on impact???

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120gr of BH 209 (not uncommon) is not far from 160gr of 2F BP.

Considering you're going to blow 30gr on BP out the barrel unburned.

Oh I don't any intention's of trying that load. My Lyman is rated to a max load well below 160 gr.

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Mine too. The recoil would be ugly anyway. Which is why I hate big conicals with any load of powder.