Some Powder Info
 

Some new to muzzleloaders are confused about powders. Although some may not like these authors. I don't see where they say anything wrong.

http://www.whitemuzzleloading.com/black_powder.htm


http://www.chuckhawks.com/propellant_choices.htm

Thanks for posting, although some may not like the authors , i often check in to see if there are new test or comparisons done . I feel its good informations as well

Thanks Muley,

Good info.

very good information there. thanks for posting.

See that was what i was asking about pyrodex, seems all the big guys say it will turn your barrel into a sewer pipe.
Is pyrodex really that bad on your barrel if proper cleaning is done?

Or maybe BH 209 is the BEE'S KNEE"S

it wont turn it into a sewer pipe as long as its cleaned out in a timely manner. Its no more corrosive than real black powder. Good powder for a sidelock, i used to use a lot of it back in the day but when it comes to inline, blackhorn209 gets 2 thumbs up.

Good post. But reading both articles, Hawks despised Pyrodex but White recommends it! (at least Pyro P)
The more I read Chuck Hawks the more I disbelieve him. I am sure, if you left a ML uncleaned for a long time using either BP or Pyro, or T7, or even BH209 it will ruin a barrel. And the corrosion, I agree, would likely be at a different rate for each propellant. Heck, even if you left a centerfire rifle uncleaned using smokeless powder long enough it would corrode. So is one powder worse than another if proper precautions are taken after use to remove all residue and treat the bore with a preservative oil? From a corrosion standpoint I don't think so.

That was written by Randy. He's more opinionated than Chuck.

I also think Pyro is more corrosive than real BP, but not a big deal if cleaned in a timely manner.

Yep, as long as you clean Pyrodex in a timely manner, as in the same day, you should be fine. It's when you leave it for a week or two that it's a problem.

From White's link.

"For hunting animals up to elk size, 160 grains FFg Black Powder is accurate with the same ball and patch and is a potent load at short range, up to 100 yards. Ignition with FFFFg in the pan of the Egg lock on the rifle is virtually instantaneous. It’s quick enough that an experienced shooter can unfailingly call his shots."

Seriously, 160 gr? In what rifle?

HA

Yep! Sam Fadala wrote a book called Black Powder Hunting. He recommends as a max load of one grain of powder for every grain of bullet weight up to .50ca.

So, a 177gr round ball would take 177gr powder. They use up to 200gr in Africa for big game. Bullets up to 600gr.

You think your inline had recoil!!

btw..These are all sidelocks.

So what would the rule be for .54's

HA

It seems to slow down after the .50 cal. 200gr seems to be close to what he recommends. He did mention some 275 gr powder loads, but said the recoil was punishing.

Keep in mind these are real BP loads. Subs would have way too much power.

Wow!!! That far exceeds any of the listed loads for most any production rifle out there.

HA

Who would want to shoot it anyway?