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flintlock question and hopely pic
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Got the pic, but what's the question?
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She's gorgeous,
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just got this in mail and I can't get the hammer or triggers to work the hammers one clik up and the frount trigger hits the 2nd trigger (I have renagades and they dont do this) I'm not sure how much different a flintlock works inside vs a caplock...is there something I'm missing? the frount peise clicks up and down over the pan...it don't matter up or down the hammer/triggers don't work...before I call and send it back is there anything I could do or doing wrong gun looks good too:( only marks are abouve the pan
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Take the lock off and see if it works when it's off of the rifle. If it does, then the screw that's in front of the trigger that holds the lock on from the other side might be too long and will need to be sanded down. Before taking the lock all the way off, back that screw out a little and see if the hammer drops when you pull the trigger.
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I would venture to guess that the front trigger was too far forward when the lock was installed. Take the lock off by removing the screw on the left side of the rifle and pull the lock out of the recess. If you look inside the lock recess in the stock and move the rear trigger fwd and back, you will see a metal arm thru the dime size hole. Make sure the rear trigger is back far enough so that arm is at the bottom or below the hole and reinstall the lock. You should be OK then.
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no marks on the wood and the blueing has one or two scraches....if I'm thinking right the set trigger should be loose not jammed forward, the screw adj the frount trigger, so the screw won't do anything....to fix this
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Bronko might have hit on the head. Take the lock off.. that one screw holds it. And then let the trigger come to normal rests in their assembly. Now carefully put the lock back on. The back is the set trigger. The front trigger is the fire trigger, just like the renegades.
Also when the lock is off, you can test it to see if the lock works. **** it and then on the bottom is that little lever. Be careful that the flint don't chop a finger, but hold that and push on that lever and it should trip the hammer. |
ok so if they cleaned the lock...they may have put it back wrong...the barrels got oil on it like it was just cleaned...I've never had a lock off a gun....is it simple enough to reassemble. easy fix. I can't send it back in parts lol.....if I take the screw off theres no spring popping out lol just pulling the trigger back and lineing it up,,,,,thanks for the help...ed
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ok I'll try it later what the hell I'll learn something...thanks I hope it works it would stink if I got to send it back...thanks i'll test the lock off the gun...it would be great if its a assembly problem
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The locks on flint locks and cap locks are the essence of simplicity. Take the lock off and mess with it. It will be nearly impossible to mess anything up. You'll figure out what's wrong with it I'm sure.
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Did you take that lock off yet striper?
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wow thank you guys very much
thanks bronko22000, pluckit and cayugad...it worked great, simple. lock worked great off the gun, it took 2 seconds to fix....I would have sent it back with out you guys:guiness:
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No spring. The screw on the side of the rifle opposite the lock is what holds the lock in place. Just unscrew it and the lock will come out as an assembly. I will take a picture of a spare lock I have laying around and show you the back before you try. Be back in a bit.
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Darn! I was about to take that piece of junk off your hands for half what you paid for it so you could cut your losses.
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No really, I'm glad you fixed it. Have fun!
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OK Striper - I took a picture of the back of a lock I have for parts. There are a few parts missing but this is what yours will look like (butwith a hammer and a coil spring). Bring your hammer to full c0ck, close the frizzen (the part that covers the pan), hold the lock on both ends and push up on the hammer release with your right thumb. The hammer should fall all the way down.
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lol thanks again...I'm all pumped up again....I guess I'll take all the locks off my other guns and clean them...lol I got a white mountain in the mid to late 80s and never had the lock off...ed
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bronko22000 thanks for the help and your time...I'm a happy guy now thanks to you guys
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I always take the lock off my side locks and clean them with a tooth brush and the cleaner I use for the bore, after I shoot them. Then I rinse them with boiling hot water and set them for a few seconds in a hot pan on the stove to dry completely. Then oil them up and put them back on the rifle.
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Have you messed with that trigger set screw yet? That thing will work wonders for your trigger if you don't know it already. I have actually taken mine all the way out and have lost it somewhere. I've been meaning to have Thompson Center send me a new one just to have it. I wouldn't use it anyway. I just hate to be without it. So if you take your's all the way out to get the lightest pull possible, put it where you'll remember where it is. It's very tiny.
By the way, if you didn't know, it's the screw that's between the two triggers. |
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I've never touched the set screw on any of the renagades I'll have to try it...they were good when I got the guns used...I'll clean the locks like you do now I know how simple it is...I've learned a ton from you guys here
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Let's see some more pictures. I was just starting to get jealous so finish off the job. Besides, I never get tired of looking at pretty side locks.
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You do need to pick up some black english flints...Is that an eraser in the jaws???
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Striper, get yourself some new flints. Try Mr. Rich Pierce ( [email protected] ). Great guy. Get the 5/8"x3/4" flints. Now, when you put a new flint in, set your hammer on 1/2 c0ck, close the frizzen, and adjust your flint so it is about 1/16" off the face of the frizzen. Tighten down the jaws. I find an allen wrench of just the right size to fit in the hole of the jaw bolt is handy. Just don't get over zealous, you can snap the bolt. Also, see if you can purchase a couple RMC vent liners or pick a new one up at Walmart. And put some antisieze on the threads before you install it.
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