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Originally Posted by chetmarks
(Post 3843243)
I guess I will try to get a 100 yard group from the Mountaineer just for you.I have 7 Encore barrels and they are all shooters.I have 1 Bergara barrel and it shoots Ok but the rifling came so rough that when cleaning it it left little pieces of patching in the rifling.
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Originally Posted by Grouse45
(Post 3843224)
Buy what you want and shoot what you want.
What does a Knight Mountaineer have to do with a Bergara barrel? If you don't like what you see or hear then don't buy one. Isn't that the obvious thing to do? FYI- Did you ever wonder why T/C made a fixed barrel Pro-hunter? :lmao: BTW- It's impossible to send a wrong bolt with a Mountaineer. And i know of none of the information you are saying. So it's obvious, you don't find out info on your own and you listen to others or make up stories for attention. |
i do so love them cheap cva barrels, especially the Wolfs barrel shooting blackhorn and powerbelt aerolites at 100 yards.
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Originally Posted by Omega45
(Post 3843247)
So the Knight Mountaineer uses the same bolt for NFPJ and FPJ? I know of one that was bought for NFPJ and when it arrived it was set up for FPJ. Why should you know of all the problems? Are you VP of Knight rifles? Your quote of ruining a good muzzleloader was your way of saying Knight is the Best. You may say it wasn't but a lot of us know what you ment.
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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3843250)
i do so love them cheap cva barrels, especially the Wolfs barrel shooting blackhorn and powerbelt aerolites at 100 yards.
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
(Post 3843240)
Actually probably should thank you for bringing up those problems and they were problems. But:
If you would go back and read the later posts I think you would find that the individual told us that he was loading the primer wrong and then crushing it in the primer pocket. He did not know that were rails in the nose of the bolt the primer was suppose to go in. And of course that would also not allow the both to close. Once in awhile operator error needs to be considered. I do not remember anyone saying that got the wrong bolt/bp so you must have read that one someplace else, so I am unable to comment on that one. But it does seem like it would be awful tough to do since the bolts are different for the Extreme and the Mountaineer. The only thing I remember is Knight sending a new bolt and BP to the individual that was not placing the primer in the bolt correctly, hoping that would cure the problem he was reporting. + all three of these problems were fixed when the poster was shown how to load primers in a Mountaineer... Had it been an Extreme it would have worked great. I would be my guess they will start showing up as the folks that have them start shooting them. Of course then you have to wonder how many of the ones that have em, belong to one of these forums??? No story telling here Grouse. Your funny when you get mad. :lolabove: |
That group was with my Wolf which basically is a Bergara but they skip the multi honing process to keep the price tag down on the rifle.
This is the Accura v2 with the true Bergara barrel from 150 yards with 120gr BH209, crush rib and 260 harvester scorpion pt gold.  Another Bergara on the Apex with 100gr BH209, 295gr powerbelt @ 100 yards with an old man behind the rifle ;)  |
Originally Posted by Grouse45
(Post 3843252)
You have no clue about what you are saying. You dream things up for attention. The T/C triumph is an awesome ML. It was a heck of alot better then the Encore, and 2 or 3 prohunters I owned. I helped design the bolt and breech plug for the mountaineer that's why I know. And I also have a friend at Knight rifles that keeps me in the loop. I can't comment on your post's anymore because it clearly shows how much you don't pay attention.
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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3843261)
That group was with my Wolf which basically is a Bergara but they skip the multi honing process to keep the price tag down on the rifle.
This is the Accura v2 with the true Bergara barrel from 150 yards with 120gr BH209, crush rib and 260 harvester scorpion pt gold. Another Bergara on the Apex with 100gr BH209, 295gr powerbelt @ 100 yards with an old man behind the rifle ;) |
Originally Posted by Omega45
(Post 3843247)
So the Knight Mountaineer uses the same bolt for NFPJ and FPJ? I know of one that was bought for NFPJ and when it arrived it was set up for FPJ.
He did call me on the land line to talk about his decisions - I did not really go along with his decision totally as I would have gone with the NFPJ-- but the key point as I told him it is your descision not mine or ours + you can always order the gear need to make the other switch. Why should you know of all the problems? Are you VP of Knight rifles? Your quote of ruining a good muzzleloader was your way of saying Knight is the Best. You may say it wasn't but a lot of us know what you ment. Bolts and Plugs No, Steve they are different... Both the bolt and the BP that go in the Mountaineer will not work in a Extreme and what works in the Extreme will not work in the Mountaineer. The Extreme uses the old standard combination bolt for FPJ and NFPJ with a primer adapter and uses a newly designed BP for BH compatibilty... Both the FPJ and NFPJ have had modifications to the BP to enhance the ability to shoot and sustain shooting BH. The Mountaineer requires a different bolt for NFPJ and FPJ + defferent BP's. Both are available from Knight you can order which ever one you want standard with the purchase + you can by the other if you want to have both ignition systems. I thought some of your questions were directed at me - maybe not - just providing some information... |
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