Got rained out but still had fun.
 

I really needed to try out this new Bushnell trophy XLT 3-9x40 (DOA) scope today. It was sent to me along time ago and i have not found time to try it out.

I also had a new Base to try and a new barrel, and a new stock as well. So pretty much everything was new today. I mounted the new base on the new barrel along with the Bushnell scope. It all looked great and worked great. I only got two shoot 2 groups before a bad storm came.

I took some pictures with the phone before i left. I actually thought some changes needed made on the base but after 7 shots with it i think it's just fine.














Sabotloader,
Thanks for the stock and the winter camo. I thought you were going to put a new recoil pad on for me? Just kidding.......LoL:D

BTW- Not enough time to really test anything. Need to wait for another day.:sad:

nice looking rifle. And I kind of like the looks of that scope.

Sweet looking set up. Other than looking cool, is there a reason to jewel the bolt?

Also, any blow back with those primers?

Looks good, but not enough shooting with it yet for me. I don't like the scope covers. Everything else is fine so far.

Jeweled bolt is looks only. Knight was big on jeweled bolts and 27" barrels. I wanted shorter barrels and no jeweled bolts.:wink:

No blow back at all with this one. This bolt doesn't crush the primer as well as my Mountaineer but works great.

I like the Knight rifles and the way they shoot. I don't think anyone has gotten an inaccurate one that I read about. Even my old, old Knight still shoots under 2" at 100 yds. But you think with all the designs they have come up with that they would get away from that need to unscrew the knob/screw on the end of the bolt. I realize it is another safety mechanism but do you really think it is necessary?

That is a very good set up there.Love the camo on the stock and if you dont mind me asking were did you purchase the scope rail?

The scope base is for testing only right now.

nice setup but were did you get a 50cal knight barrel with 1-24 twist and the new bolt

I really like that idea... secondary safety and an easy way to disassemble the bolt - no extra tools need.

Shoot if you do not like just ignore it - except when you need to take the bolt apart...

3 guesses, first 2 don't count.:s1:

I like the secondary safety as well. It is a good comfort maker for me.

OK just tell me how to call and I will test one for them this hunting season. That is just mean to show and not tell (haha).

It's a blank test barrel from knight.

Getting back to that need to unscrew the knob. I personnally don't like it and I am sure its a turn off for a lot of other shooters. And I don't like having to have the bolt face resting on the primer (if I unscrew it all the way). My reason is that I still hunt most of the time and often times I only have a couple seconds to get off a shot. Having to unscrew this 'safety' feature wastes valuable time and unnecessary movement.
Other than that I love the Knights. They shoot great and are light, reliable rifles.

I am not understanding what you are saying here. Anytime the bolt is closed and a primer is inserted the primer always rests against the bolt face whether the secondary safety is engaged or not. The only thing the secondary safety does other than disassembly, is to insure that the hammer can not reach the primer. I do not do this I am sorry to say, anytime there is a primer inserted and you lift the bolt handle you really do take a slight chance that the sear may let the hammer go and the gun could go off, but with the secondary safety engaged that can not happen. I think that feature alone was one of the driving forces for the secondary safety.

Especially for those that set their own triggers or triggers that have become worn over the ages and not reset... it is just a bit of added safety.

Most of my hunting is still hunting also but at that time the secondary safety is never engaged just the trigger safety. There really is no reason to engage the secondary safety in that situation unless you would want to. Other wise just leave it off, most do not it engaged very often any way. My Whites also have a secondary saftey also. I think the only reason they were added to was for insurance, insurance that the shooter can use when ever he or she feels like it.

I think most just turn it back and forget it until it comes time to take the bolt apart or you might be working on the gun to insure that the hammer does drop, and even then the gun is un-primed, you are just preventing a dry-fire.

As busy as you are you should send that 1:24 barrel to me and I will test it for you.
I would be willing to sacrifice bullets and powder for such a worthy cause.

I guess i could test some similar load data in my Savage with a 1-24 too. :D

You better wait and test it in a Denali

You are killing me bro :D

Shoot me a price in PM and let me think about it. I need another 50cal like i need a hole in my head.

I really think Knight made the right choice not bringing out the 1/24 twist 50cal. a 1/26.. 50 and 52cal will be fine.

Now when we talk about 45's, i'm thinking 1/20 and 1/24. We need to make a better longer high B.C. bullet for the guy's who think they need it.:p

1:20 for sure

Now you are talking. If Knight comes out with a gun like this I will part with some of my money. Until then, I will keep shooting my .45 DISC Elite.

OK Sabot, I guess there is a difference between my old Knight and the newer models.
I have one of the originals where you have to pull back on the 'bolt' and unscrew the rear knob. So I guess there was some misunderstanding here. And Knight did change the design somewhat. Heck, my old Knight doesn't even have a model number on it.

+1

I consider the secondary safety to be intended for loading, unloading, priming, take down and cleaning.

Oh ya... I forgot about those and infact I was shooting one ths morning...

Your old Knight might be worth some money if it is that old and um-marked...

On the 45cal its not so much the added BC, its the added SD. If you could shoot Hornady 300gr .411 405Winchester bullets out of a 45cal, you would have a nasty mo fo. Just look at Docs 45 PowerStar sabots/bullet. Even at only 1600fps MV, they slam like a freight train at 250 yards with over 1000fpe left. A 1-24 i think would give both sabot shooters and sabotless a ton of options. It shouldn't be too fast for 180gr XTP fun loads. Anything faster than a 1-22 those start to suffer and a 45cal is my favorite fun gun too.

Same reason i ONLY want a White in 451 or 410. Its the massive SD potential.

Speed kills my friend. It's no problem for me to shoot a 200grn bullet 2550 fps. I will take that all day long on just about any animal at 150yds or under.

And a 1-24 will shoot a 200gr at over 2500fps all day long with 4198 or N120. ;)

Its all about the options. The more that are left open the more flexible the caliber. Sabotless though shooting upto a 275gr would be my goal with BH209. Ive seen some pretty impressive speeds with sabotless BH209 with 250-325gr bullets. Busta was clocking about 2300fps and a 250gr SST IIRC and the Parkers are a gimme.

The Parker ballistic extremes are a very good bullet. Knurling the bullets for sabotless takes alot of extra time. Especially to make them right and consistent.

BH209 is a lot better powder then you give it credit for. RB was really doing a lot of research on it trying to figure why and how it was so good. It still shot the light bullets extremely well when the other smokeless powders would not.

Your ULA with 42grns of N110 and a 275grn Parker BE
will do the job on most animals with out a doubt. No need to change the bullet and it works. When i get mine back, i plan on trying the ULA with the 275grn Lehigh. If they dont shoot well theres always the 277grn Lehigh bullets. I think both will do just fine with the Short Black harvester sabots.

Ive got both the Lehigh 277 and 275 ready to test in the ULA with N110 and 4759. Ive got a BUNCH of Parker 275s too. I even have his 225gr XPB load and the Harvester Smooths. I shot 43gr and the cheaper PT Golds and it was crazy accurate.

I REALLY want the Lehigh to work even if its only 2200fps. I dont care if its smokeless or BH209.

I like the idea of the 1-26 for both the 50 and 52cal. Its pretty much a Knight exclusive twist already in the 52cal. It should give a small edge in the 50cal too and be kind of a selling point.

The problem with a 1-20 45cal is been there and done that. It bombed and many people wont forget even if it was just the marketing of a 155gr@2500fps that made it bomb, not the twist. Its fine for a 200gr or larger bullet, probably really good with a longer monolithic or even conicals. Even if just by a marketing view point the 1-24 would move away from that "bad ole" 1-20 that some wont forget. Even Cecil at PR still rags on the 1-20.

It will still give most of the advantages though and no one makes a 1-24 45cal so it would be another "exclusive". I wonder what a Lehigh 200gr would weigh in copper? ;)