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Palehorse 08-08-2011 07:14 PM

Two, 2-shot groups
 
5:30 AM - 82 degrees, muggy and foggy when I start tending the animals. Maybe I ought to go to work today, but then, any day at the range beats the best day at work.

The New Gun - Pre-ordered this in April, got it in late may. I took some time to get the scope (Redfield 2-7x33mm), rings (Leupold Rifleman) and base (Knight one piece).


Serial Number 50 -


The Load -
Being a trad-gunner for the most part, I stick with a one powder does it all. I get confused with too many options. 90 gr. GOEX 2F, CCI #11, Barnes TM-EX 290 gr bullets. I swab with T/C #13 patch and a dry patch between shots.


The Range Trip - I unpack, and realize I left my possibles bag, flask and measure at home. I consider calling it a short day, but head in to the range store ( http://www.knobcreekrange.com/ ) and purchase a Butler creek GOEX spout and a Knight powder measure.

I barely get zeroed at 25 yards, when the lightning and thunder start, my target blows over, and minutes later, the water is ankle deep at the range. My target is unable to cope.


After the storm passes, I use what is left of my target stand, move it to 100 yards. Unfortunately, the grass is tall enough, I cannot see the center of the left most target.

I shoot dead center of the center target, and see nothing from the bench. I move up from my bench, and can see that the shot is low. I shoot again, and cut almost the same hole. I adjust 2.5" right, 3" up, and shoot the next to rounds into the right hand bull.


The thunder starts to rumble again, and I decide that cleaning guns in the garage at home seems a safer bet.

Can't wait for deer season with the new Knight! Hope the muggy weather is over for 2011 :woot:

onetohunt 08-08-2011 07:27 PM

Congrats on the new gun! It looks like it is going to come around quite nicely!

builder459 08-08-2011 07:31 PM

I don't know where your at or how long your average shots are. but Flinthead who is a member on this forum, just bought a bighorn and posted pics shooting .75 gr pyrodex and a .460 No Excuse at 100 yds, with outstanding accuracy.if thats the barnes .290 gr TEZ, it needs to be pushed hard.not unusal to see loads of 100-110 of 777 or BH209 used to scoot it along.that is a long bullet compared to a lead jacketed .300 gr bullet. maybe try the .250 gr or another bullet.Ray

bronko22000 08-08-2011 07:32 PM

Nice rifle. Sometimes, no matter how much we want to get out an shoot it just might be better to stay home and sip coffee and wait for another day with more promising weather.
There's nothing worse than getting all set up and along comes the rain. Especially with a ML.

Semisane 08-08-2011 07:38 PM

Looking good Palehorse. Quitting the range under those circumstances is the right thing to do. That gun wouldn't look as good with a lightning scorched stock.

cayugad 08-09-2011 06:17 AM

Those Bighorn Rifles are good rifles. A person I talk to shoots 300 grain XTPs with 85 grains of Goex and claims his is super accurate with that load. I almost purchased a Bighorn a while back. But at the last second a different person threw $5.00 more dollars on it with seconds to spare.

Palehorse 08-09-2011 08:11 AM

Thanks for the comments all :D

builder459, you mentioned:

Originally Posted by builder459
don't know where your at or how long your average shots are . . . if thats the barnes .290 gr TEZ, it needs to be pushed hard

My shots run between 15 yards and 75 yards, with 40 yards being typical. It is the Barnes 290 T-EZ. Are you recommending more powder to get expansion?

MountainDevil54 08-09-2011 08:41 AM

that or switch to the MZ Barnes

TNHagies 08-09-2011 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Palehorse (Post 3832553)
Thanks for the comments all :D

builder459, you mentioned:

My shots run between 15 yards and 75 yards, with 40 yards being typical. It is the Barnes 290 T-EZ. Are you recommending more powder to get expansion?


The T-EZ's will work fine at that range. But you're really not getting the addeded benefit of the BC at that range. If they shoot well, by all means go for it. The Expanders might be a better choice for you though. They have a big ol' hollow point and will shoot real well at the distances you hunt. It's actually my favorite Barnes.

johnnyo 08-09-2011 08:51 AM

why not try the 250's

builder459 08-09-2011 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Palehorse (Post 3832553)
Thanks for the comments all :D

builder459, you mentioned:

My shots run between 15 yards and 75 yards, with 40 yards being typical. It is the Barnes 290 T-EZ. Are you recommending more powder to get expansion?

Sorry for the confusion lol. 15-75 yds the .290 bullet isn't even necessary. just got the .250 TEZ. the .290 gr TEZ usually likes between 100-110 gr bh209 or 777 to work really well as far as accuracy is concerned. i am a huge fan of Barnes TEZ and Expander line of bullets.. but if my average shots where i live were less than 100 yds, i would be shooting the .250 Deep curl bullet. Ray

Palehorse 08-09-2011 12:38 PM

No problem, just wanted to make sure I had something that would expand, given the close range hunting I do. The 90 grain load was the starting load in the sheet that came in the Barnes T-EZ package. It was certainly accurate enough, so I stopped there.

I will pick up some Expander MZ 250 grain to try next.

Semisane 08-09-2011 12:39 PM


but if my average shots where i live were less than 100 yds, i would be shooting the .250 Deep curl bullet.
Bingo! We have a winner. I totally agree.


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