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pluckit 07-19-2011 01:09 PM

Too Expensive For Me
 
In the lat 2 days I have spent way too much money for supplies alone.
Blackhorn 209-$29.99
Pyrodex Pellets-$29.99
Remington STS 209 Primers-$8.99
Winchester Triple Seven Primers-$9.99
44 cal. Hornady 240 grain XTP 100 count-$24.99
Goex fffg-$23.99
Tax-$7.68
Total-$135.62
Add another $35.00 dollars to that and you have what I paid for my CVA Wolf, brand new.
Oh well, I guess a lot of addicts can't afford to feed their addiction.
The good thing is I'm set for bullets, powder and primers for a little while.

bronko22000 07-19-2011 02:02 PM

Pluckit, Doesn't the BH209 come in 10 oz canisters? If so, my math that comes to about $2.99 an ounce! Assuming your charge is 100 gr, you get 4.37 loads per ounce or about 44 loads per can - or about .68 a shot.
With BP I can get 70 shots out of a lb at a cost of $18.( about .26 per shot with the same 100 gr charge) Less than 1/2 the cost and still have just as much fun. Granted I have to swab more often but that's part of MLing to me.
The pellets cost more than loose too for the Pyrodex so you can save some money there. One thing I don't scrimp on however are the bullets. If they shoot good for me I use them.

pluckit 07-19-2011 02:20 PM

Here's the deal. I haven't found anything that shoots better out of my Pursuit than Pyrodex Pellets. That's not to say nothing will, I just haven't found it yet, and I'm not ready for the expense needed to find it.
As for the Blackhorn, I'm trying to find a load using that powder for my Knight Vision, and then keep it as my dedicated Blackhorn shooter. I hope to never fire any other powder with that rifle. Hopefully I will find a sweet load for it soon and then I will only use it to hunt with.

builder459 07-19-2011 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by pluckit (Post 3825182)
In the lat 2 days I have spent way too much money for supplies alone.
Blackhorn 209-$29.99
Pyrodex Pellets-$29.99
Remington STS 209 Primers-$8.99
Winchester Triple Seven Primers-$9.99
44 cal. Hornady 240 grain XTP 100 count-$24.99
Goex fffg-$23.99
Tax-$7.68
Total-$135.62
Add another $35.00 dollars to that and you have what I paid for my CVA Wolf, brand new.
Oh well, I guess a lot of addicts can't afford to feed their addiction.
The good thing is I'm set for bullets, powder and primers for a little while.

There are a lot of ways to save some dollars. shooting pyrodex loose for one.i can assure you that a load with pyrodex loose can be made to be as accurate as the pellets.i use STS primers exclusively in my triumph and my Knight wolverine and i bought 1000 of them, which is far cheaper to do than 100 at a time.what are the 777 primers for? and what do they do that the STS primers won't? the pyrodex in the loose form can be used in place of your goex also, in order to save some cash..side lock rifles shoot real well with pyrodex !! i use blackhorn in the triumph and pyrodex in the wolverine with conicals. those 2 powders will cover about any rifles one can shoot. Ray

Semisane 07-19-2011 02:45 PM

Well, let's see. If you go to Jack's Powder Keg (http://www.jackspowderkeg.com/) you can get a case of 25 lbs. of GOEX for $14 a pound shipped to your door. I do that every year or two.

Shooting 95 grain loads in just about all of my guns, sidelocks and in-lines, I'll get at least 70 shots from a pound of powder. That's twenty cents a shot for powder.

For the sidelocks add another nickel for a #11 cap, round balls I cast myself from lead a roofer buddy gives me, a few ounces of olive oil from the pantry, and a yard of pillow tick for patching, and I'm shooting for something around thirthy cents or less a shot. That's $15 fro a 50 shot range session.

For the in-lines, add a nickle for the 209 primer, fifteen cents for the sabot, and forty cents for a Deep Curl, and (after including shipping & handling for sabots and bullets) I'm burning nearly buck with each shot.

I shoot sidelocks a lot.

pluckit 07-19-2011 02:50 PM

I tried Pyrodex loose in my Pursuit and could't find a load equivalent to the pellets. Like I said, I'm not saying there isn't one, but I'm not prepared to search for it right now. I also tried it in one of my side locks and had hang fires. So the Goex goes in those.

HEAD0001 07-19-2011 02:58 PM

4# of BP and 1# of Null B: $96
WW from the tire store: FREE
Used round ball mold: $25
Used conical mold: $25
Ladle: $10
10 flints: $10

Total $166 for first 300 or so shots. Then $106 for each additioal 300 or so shots. So about 35 cents a shot?? Don't need any of that expensive stuff at my house. I have it. But I don't need it. And I can buy my powder even cheaper than that. And 1# of Null-B goes a long way. Tom.

pluckit 07-19-2011 03:22 PM

If I bought a case of Goex it would last me a lifetime.
Until I started buying new rifles and taking them to the range to sight them in, I used very little powder. I had a can of Goex that lasted me about 20 years. I only shot the rifle as many times as I shot a deer. Maybe an extra shot here and there to finish the animal off. I hate to watch them suffer.

MountainDevil54 07-19-2011 07:05 PM

STS primers are $9 a box? thats crazy, i get CCI Magnums for under $4 a box.

Omega45 07-19-2011 08:27 PM

They are probably $9 a 100 if they are in plastic labeled as muzzleloader primers. Gander Mtn had them for $7.99 packaged that way and I tried to explain to the employee that they are the same exact STS primer that they are selling for $3.99 in the shotgun primer section that were currently out of stock. He was clueless, I left!


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