Hunter Safety
 

Everybody has different opinions on safety just like Muzzleloaders. I think every state should wear orange in gun/muzzleloader season. Or at least put a orange belt around the tree.

WHY...So i can see you and don't shoot towards you. That's why i think a Orange hat or something should be used to let me know your 200yds across the field or creak bottom from me. Heck i would probably move if i saw you.

The Orange doesn't bother the Deer trust me. It's the movement that they notice. Be safe guy's, it's just not worth it any other way.

Grouse - I agree with you. Now, tell me all your good hunting areas so I can go buy about 50 orange hats and hang them every 200 yds then sit in the middle..... :)

The concept of Blaze Orange for hunting is a good thing. I am sure its saved lives. I have found that if you do not move, the deer don't really seem spooked as much as you might think. I even wear a blaze orange hat when I bird hunt for pheasants. Other then ducks, I normally have blaze orange on. Unless hunting on my land.

Turkey season everybody wears camo and it seems we have a lot more accidents arround here in Turkey season. I'm a firm believer in the orange.

You cant see my hunter orange in my stand anyway but i do wear it. Its mandatory in Mo, except for archery season IIRC but i would still wear it if it wasn't. Once in the stand we do put a orange hat in a visible location.

I don't understand why they don't have to wear it in archery season in Colorado?

It runs the same time as ML season, so there's guys in the mountains with guns.

I've hunted the wide open plains in SD and KS. I can pick out the orange a mile away. Not only does it help with safety, it helps keep the order on public or shared properties.

All members of my party light up like an orange christmas tree.

What Grouse said.

BTW: i wear blaze orange in turkey season and it doesn't seem to bother the turkeys. When we lived in WV there were hunters shot during turkey season than in deer season: You could hunt turkeys in WV with high power rifles then and some of those shootings were really bad.

Here in Arkansas portable and pop up ground blinds on public land during firearm deer, bear,elk has got to have at least 144 square inches of hunter orange or chartreuse on each visible sides at least 3 feet above the ground. I think it is new for this year.

Simply put it isn't necessary and is no substitute for knowing what your aiming at period! Nuff said!

Can't agree with that Builder. It just too easy to know exactly what you're aiming at (an your attention will certainly be focused on that deer) without realizing there's someone out there in the background. If everyone hunted from an elevated platform and all shots were down at 50 yards it probably wouldn't matter. But get on the ground in open country and fields and it's real easy for someone to be out behind your target that you would never notice without orange.

Im so safe that i even wear camo orange boxers into the woods. Never know when some californian or texan may mistake my hairy rear end for a 'bar!

Blaze orange is a tool used to keep you safe from hunters that are capable of seeing it. Deer have picked out my blaze orange many times, whether it is because the deer has escaped other orange clad hunters, or because to the deer the orange is perceived as a solid bright patch of white or gray. The deer that pay no attention to orange have not been conditioned to do so. It only takes 1 or 2 run-ins with hunters for deer to avoid it.

Seeing orange does serve as an alert that another hunter is located beyond the target that he intends to shoot at and in the direct or indirect line of fire.
Being aware is better than not being aware that someone else is in the area.

what is the blaze orange requirement in colorado elk muzzleloader?

Blaze Orange is certainly an important and useful tool in safety during firearms and muzzle loader season. But let us all not forget about the importance of safe firearms handling. The rules we have all learned are what keeps us safe from each other AND OURSELVES.

I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. I think blaze orange is important. I also think some states go way overboard with it. I'd have to look back for sure but I believe Wyoming was 1 visible article of clothing. Most people were smart and took that to mean a shirt of vest. There were a few that would go out with just a hat. But you could still see them. The nice thing is it helped to point out the out-of-staters. They were the ones walking around in blaze from head to toe.

500 inches on the torso, and head.



To the thread:
For those who think the deer/elk are seeing the blaze orange. You could have brighteners on the vest. Wash it it the same non brightener soap you use on the rest of your hunting clothes.

You do wash your clothes with non brightener soap don't you?

I have to chuckle at the hunting TV shows. They not only don't wear blaze orange, but they mount the antlers on their back.

"I'm sorry officer. I saw antlers, and though it was an elk."

Not me. My clothes just go into the wash without any detergent.

Im not a believer in all those scent stoppers/cover BS.

I disagree completely
I rather wear orange by choice, not be forced to wear it.
NY does not have a hunters orange requirement,
1 reason they dont have it is because NY has a high rate of hunters wearing orange voluntarily.
as a NY hunter i dont have to wear orange yet i wear it even when hunting my own land.
i rather wear it by choice, not be forced to wear it by regulations.

Blaze Orange vest for all hunting seasons and I hang it on my stand during archery season. Better safe than a bullet or arrow in my butt.

No detergent??

Why don't you just stand in the rain with your clothes on? :p

certain detergent like downy makes me itchy and break out in hives on my legs and stomach. Im a very sensitive little boy you know :s1:

Jon, give a 1/2 -1 cup baking soda a try!! takes away the odor and leaves no smell! Ray

Amen to that...Ray

thanks ray i will give that a go this season! They really are proud of those wash detergents price wise!

i normally put my hunting clothes into a plastic bag and use one of those little discs that smell like dirt and seal it up. Works good for a couple days. After that i smell like ATV Exhaust LOL.

Try this one.



http://www.armandhammer.com/fabric-c...-dye-free.aspx

I used to use baking soda but now I use Sport Wash. Just a capful (1 oz) does an entire load of my hunting clothing. Then, even though I hunt the wind, I alway use Scent Shield. And several times I had deer so close I could have almost reached out and touched them.
As for the orange thing. I only wear it when required. And I too have not noticed any difference in deer detecting it. And I only hunt public land where there is considerable pressure.

that will work aslo. i have always used cheap old baking soda and it works well.i also seal my camo gear in a plastic bag with no scent. when i am out i use what ever scent is around, we have a lot of sage and juniper which i rub on my clothes, BLM land here has some range cattle and i have been known to step in some of that and wipe the excess off in the dirt:s4: Ray

Im going to make my own pine scent cover up. Store stuff is to much $$ for something to simple.

98 cents for a big spray bottle, water is free as well as the pine boughs. Just crush them to a pump and throw them into a pointing coffee pot of water. Put into the bottle and its all ready.

Man Ray, when people told me that you smell like s&9t, they werent pullin my leg! :D

Hey don't knock it, cow patties make great cover scent! :poke: good idea on the pine cover scent jon.

cow patties also make good "firewood" when your hunting out in sage brush country.

I may start collecting some cedar berries tomorrow and freeze them for later on. Trees are filled with them right now so i may as well get some stock.

Walmart almost gives away Scent-A-Way after hunting season. I've got gallons of the stuff.

btw Scent-A-Way came out the best in testing.

Better than rolling around in cow plop.:p

yeah but its also less fun!

Dogs roll around in cow pies, it step in it old timer:poke: Ray

not mine, he eats it and then has the nerve to try crawling into bed with me.

Builder, you'll really be stepping in it if you get into a debate with the old timer. :s2:

Very wise. :happy0001: