Will Conicals Wear Out Barrels Faster?
06-03-2011, 05:58 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
Posts: 3,732
That seems logical at first blush arcticap.
However, you must realize that lead is 3.1778 times harder than the average sabot. I used that figure, and factored in the average lubricity quotients of spit, olive oil, Crisco, and bore butter to adjust the likely wear factor for both patched balls and lubricated conicals - thus arriving at 3.2 and 2.9 bazillion shots respectively.
I'm sure that figure is correct. DO NOT MAKE ME RECALCULATE IT!!!
After all, it's just a rule of thumb. 
However, you must realize that lead is 3.1778 times harder than the average sabot. I used that figure, and factored in the average lubricity quotients of spit, olive oil, Crisco, and bore butter to adjust the likely wear factor for both patched balls and lubricated conicals - thus arriving at 3.2 and 2.9 bazillion shots respectively.
I'm sure that figure is correct. DO NOT MAKE ME RECALCULATE IT!!!
After all, it's just a rule of thumb. 
06-03-2011, 07:40 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
Posts: 3,192
I don't know that I believe that or not. Too many variables for you to say that.
I said I believe the saboted loads have more pressure because most people try to push the envelope with magnum loads in the sabot loads. While most shooters do not try to push the envelope with large conicals. So I disagree with your above statement.
Shooters are definitely burning more powder with the sabots. But I will agree that it takes more to get the big conicals started down the bore. But I believe the extra power that people load the sabots with more than makes up for the higher pressure. Just an opinion.
I know I push my sabots hard. But not my everyday conical. Tom.
06-04-2011, 04:40 AM
#16
Typical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Montana
Posts: 581
I think for the average or even above average shooter you'll never see a barrel wear completely down. Atleast in the Muzzleloader world. Centerfire is a different story. Some calibers with the right bullet will wear the barrel down in 1000 - 2000 shots. Which I could probably do that in three years.
06-04-2011, 08:08 AM
#19
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Boncarbo,Colorado
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I think for the average or even above average shooter you'll never see a barrel wear completely down. Atleast in the Muzzleloader world. Centerfire is a different story. Some calibers with the right bullet will wear the barrel down in 1000 - 2000 shots. Which I could probably do that in three years.
06-04-2011, 12:36 PM
#20
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
I read a study published about 25 or 26 years a go that surveyed muzzle loading gunsmiths and according to that the barrels they had to work on or replace were mostly from ramrod wear at the muzzle or from being scratched by some one trying to pull a ball or a broken jag. Wear on a properly cared for barrel is normally to slow to measure.
