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donjose 05-13-2011 03:36 PM

Rem 700 ML
 
Was doing a search for a friend who has one of these for a few parts and was wondering are they good guns and what are these conversions I here about?I tried to call these guys this week and they never called back are they out of buisness?
http://muzzleloadingbullets.com/remi...rsion_kit.html

sabotloader 05-13-2011 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by donjose (Post 3808330)
Was doing a search for a friend who has one of these for a few parts and was wondering are they good guns and what are these conversions I here about?I tried to call these guys this week and they never called back are they out of buisness?
http://muzzleloadingbullets.com/remi...rsion_kit.html

If you can not get the information there try here...

http://armurierlavaltrie.com/remkit.html

This is the company in Canada that makes them in the first place.

The other thing you might look at is the the conversion offered by derfhunter on Modern Muzzleloaders Forum...

donjose 05-13-2011 05:00 PM

Sabotloader,
I was under the impression this gun has the 209 primer breach plug already with it.I was looking on brownells and they have a breach plug for sale is there a different nipple or plug for the breach plug?


Thank You
Jason

sabotloader 05-13-2011 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by donjose (Post 3808366)
Sabotloader,
I was under the impression this gun has the 209 primer breach plug already with it.I was looking on brownells and they have a breach plug for sale is there a different nipple or plug for the breach plug?


Thank You
Jason

Correct... the same breech plug is used for cap ignition and 209 ignition. You just swap out the different nipples.

The Remington 209 conversion is terrible dirty. This Canadian Conversion is the better of the two. The Conversion that derfhunter makes might even be better. I even made a bolt conversion to make it more like a bolt and firing pin conversion rather than a plunger/hammer gun.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...onversion.html

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...-700-farm.html

Just a heads up... if the gun does not have the conversion hammer installed you will need to buy a kit. If you go with a Remington Conversion Kit - the hammer will not work with the Canadian nipple and vice versa....

donjose 05-13-2011 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3808376)
Correct... the same breech plug is used for cap ignition and 209 ignition. You just swap out the different nipples.

The Remington 209 conversion is terrible dirty. This Canadian Conversion is the better of the two. The Conversion that derfhunter makes might even be better. I even made a bolt conversion to make it more like a bolt and firing pin conversion rather than a plunger/hammer gun.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...onversion.html

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...-700-farm.html

Just a heads up... if the gun does not have the conversion hammer installed you will need to buy a kit. If you go with a Remington Conversion Kit - the hammer will not work with the Canadian nipple and vice versa....

So the replacement breach plug from brownells will work with a 209 primer and will need to find the nipples?


Jason

sabotloader 05-13-2011 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by donjose (Post 3808380)
So the replacement breach plug from brownells will work with a 209 primer and will need to find the nipples?


Jason

yep! you will just turn in the different nipples...

donjose 05-13-2011 05:47 PM

okay i understand now any good places for the nipples?

Jason

sabotloader 05-13-2011 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by donjose (Post 3808385)
okay i understand now any good places for the nipples?

Jason

They can be had just about anywhere... Which nipple are you after? A musket nipple or #11 nipple?

Which hammer is in the gun now a percussion hammer or a 209 hammer?

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Catego...71&styleID=785

You will need a 1/4" x 28 nipple.

donjose 05-13-2011 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3808390)
They can be had just about anywhere... Which nipple are you after? A musket nipple or #11 nipple?

Which hammer is in the gun now a percussion hammer or a 209 hammer?

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Catego...71&styleID=785

You will need a 1/4" x 28 nipple.

Dont know which hammer is in the gun I guess I will have to find out,

if it has a 209 hammer, will it work either way :pcwhack:

Jason

sabotloader 05-13-2011 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by donjose (Post 3808412)
Dont know which hammer is in the gun I guess I will have to find out,

if it has a 209 hammer, will it work either way :pcwhack:

Jason

Yes, a 209 hammer can be universal...

donjose 05-14-2011 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3808413)
Yes, a 209 hammer can be universal...

It is set up with a musket cap nipple so what does that mean as far as the hammer goes



Jason

sabotloader 05-14-2011 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by donjose (Post 3808522)
It is set up with a musket cap nipple so what does that mean as far as the hammer goes

Jason

Then it is probably a percussion hammer. You will not know until you look at the hammer.

donjose 05-14-2011 01:16 PM

Well I guess finding a hammer probally will be hard I guess we will try the #11 and see what happens


Jason

sabotloader 05-14-2011 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by donjose (Post 3808551)
Well I guess finding a hammer probally will be hard I guess we will try the #11 and see what happens

Jason

#11 Mag caps work very in a Remington... You may have to replace the Remington hammer spring with an aftermarket spring as the Remington spring gets weak quickly.

When you get the gun - be sure and take the bolt apart and check the insides... If the owner did not do his maintenance it might be in tough shape.

You are going to need to get a #11 capper...

About the only way to get a hammer is buy a 209 kit - but do not buy a Remington Kit!!!

donjose 05-14-2011 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3808552)
You may have to replace the Remington hammer spring

We are talking striker spring not hammer spring correct?



Jason

sabotloader 05-14-2011 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by donjose (Post 3808556)
We are talking striker spring not hammer spring correct?

Jason

Striker-Hammer-Firing Pin

Here is a picture


alleyyooper 05-15-2011 05:52 AM

The Canadian 209 kit hammer has a forward faceing dimple in the center of it. I bought my kit for the 54 at Cabelas.
The #11 hammer is a cup on the end of the plunger. The # 11 works well as long as you take the time to take the bolt apart clean the spring and the insides. Use a dri slide type of lube as a oil will freeze in cold temps.

This bolt take down tool is worth every penny of it's price.



Another plus for this old muzzle loader is the trigger ajustment eaz. several places on the net explains the proper way to do it.

:D Al

MountainDevil54 05-15-2011 06:02 AM

Thats something i'd coat with dyna tek gun shield. Do around 4 coats, allow 45 minutes between coats and that fouling will wash right off without a brush. That stuff really shines on these older style guns.

donjose 05-15-2011 07:04 AM

Thanks For the info guys I am just playing around with the gun for my In Law, sometime next month I will get her finished and start shooting some groups.By the way it is a 54 Cal I like slow big heavy bullets just like my women :)

Jason

MountainDevil54 05-15-2011 12:21 PM

LOL, thats funny


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