Coyote Load?
 

I've always used a .223 for coyotes, but i'd like to use my Omega this year.

Have any of you hunted coyotes with a ML? What load did you use?

I'd like to have a range out to 250yds if possible. Coyotes are easy to kill, so bullet performance isn't important like it is for big game. What I need is accurate flat shooting load. This won't be in ML season, so sabots are fine.

I would try hornady sst. Every gun that I have shot with those gives a one inch group and they are flat shooting. I just don't use them for big game. They just don't hold up. But coyotes would work

We've had a large increase in coyotes on the farm this year and have decided the only right thing to do is take up coyote hunting. I have my AR that I had originally planned on using, but it just doesn't interest me as much as my ML's. I've been debating between SST's for accuracy and XTP's for cost. For now I'm kind of leaning towards the XTP's since I have a good number of those already and in MN I won't have any real long shots.
Make sure you let us know once you get out.

The first thing i would try is the 200g shockwave. My only concern is the furnished sabot, may be too tight for an Omega. I have never tried them in my Omega(s).

Another bullet one can try is the 200g SST. They seem to be only sold with sabot to fit a 45 caliber rifle. What i did was purchase the 200g SST, and then purchase blue crush rib sabot for 50 caliber rifle, and 40 caliber bullet. They work good in my Triumph, which seems to have near the same barrel size as my Omega(s).

These bullet fly flat enough to hit a coyote with a center of chest hold out to about 175 yard with a 150 yard zero, when pushed by 115 to 120g or so, of BH209.

I hunt coyotes with my 45 knight with a Precision rifle dead center sabot .357/ 45 240 gr. Very flat shooting and good for the range you are talking about. I use 110 gr 777 with it.

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Do you have prairie dog issues?

My bore doesn't seem to be the average Omega. I shot some Hornady 350gr FTB's lately, and they fit perfect. I read they are .503.

I need to find a pretty cheap bullet. Unlike elk hunting. I'll be shooting a lot of these. I'd like to find a cheaper powder than BH too.

It's going to be hard not going back to a .223. It was so cheap to shoot, and good for 500yds with no recoil. :(

What's your thoughts on this test? They have a 175gr bullet now that really shoots flat to 250yds.


http://www.prbullet.com/drop.htm

I personally hunt them with the same bullet i hunt larger game with or a practice version of same weight. IMHO, it just makes you a better marksman using the same bullet and the kill zone on a yote is much smaller. if one is keeping the pelts, that's a different story. i shoot them,cut the tails off and take them home. the rest is left for the crows.Ray

I hike the area I hunt everyday. Yesterday I had a shot of 50 yds on an elk. Today I had a 200 yd shot on a coyote. It makes no sense to use the same load. Plus, my elk load cost me $2.00 a round. Way too much for coyote.

Besides, my elk load kicks like a mule. Ok for one shot, but not on a daily basis.

Muley, You can do whatever you like lol. if 2.00 is to much for a yote so be it. like i said one can use a practice round of same weight. IMHO 2.00 for a yote is cheap. shooting the same bullet for for all animals is priceless, as far as accuracy is concerned.same applies to recoil also you get used to it and in any kind of hunting situation i never feel recoil. probably since all of my concentration is on the shot and the adrenaline factor. Ray

I could easily spend $400 a month if each round cost me $2.00. Way too much for me on SS.

Recoil does bother me since having to shoot left handed. It's my bum shoulder. 175gr bullet sounds much better than a 350gr bullet if I have to shoot it multiple times everyday.

Ah hell. I should just get another .223.

That's easy, especially if only want to dispatch them. Use your most accurate load.

I would try out the 200 Shockwave/SST. Very accurate in most rifles and very flat shooting. They are not too expensive if you look around. A cheaper option would be a 200 grain .40 cal pistol bullet - XTP, Berry's or the now Noslers (not Partition). These won't shoot quite as flat as the Shockwaves, but are much cheaper. 250 yards is possible, but you'll need to practice at longer ranges to learn the drop and wind drift. A rangefinder helps a lot. Good luck!

That's the bullet i was talking about. I meant 195 gr. I said 240 gr because I was shooting the 240 yesterday but it is a 40 cal not a .357. I never tried the 175 gr. but the 195 is excellent. They only make it for a .45 cal gun I thought.

At first, but it looks like they added the 175 too.

http://www.prbullet.com/duplex.htm

Muley Hunter

I use a 45 cal Knight and a Speer .40/180 grain Gold Dot/Deep Curl. Really accurate and they shoot great.

If the bore on your Omega is a .503, you might get have better luck with the thicker MMP 40-50 Blue sabot.

I'm not sure what my bore is. I don't have a way to measure it. I read the FTB is .503, but who knows if that's accurate, and who knows how accurate the bullets are. I use a .501 Thor, but it feels a bit loose to me. A .502 feels a bit tight, but who knows how accurate those are?

Basically, I know nothing. :confused0024:

These are little grenades and are in boxes of 100.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=192444

Cabelas has them on sale for $27/100 right now.

Its a bit easier to get a 50x45 to shoot accurately but if you can get a 50x40 to shoot well then a 200gr SST would be a great long range bullet. The 200gr XTP isnt bad either with .199 BC. I never had any luck though with the Harvester CR blue, the MMP blue shot better for me but i didn't get time to test them much. The MMP does fit a larger bore MUCH better.

I shoot the 350 grain FPB's for my hunting load out of my Omega. I tried the sample pack of Thors and the .501 goes down the best. The .502 is too tight. Just thought I mention that for reference. i'll measure a FPB if I can remember to tonight but I think they are smaller then .503

I cast 240 gr lead .430 and shoot them in bulk green sabots good accuracy and very inexpensive. I shoot app or pyrodex. I use this in my Encore.

The only problem i have with the PRs is i cant get them to shoot very well much past 1950fps. Several guys on Dougs board even tried in faster twist barrels and almost no one could shoot them past 2100fps with good long range accuracy. I really wish they sold the duplex sabots loose though. They would be fun to experiment with if you could get them moving 2400fps+ and a jacketed 180-200gr .357 or .358. Soft lead boat tails will deform in flight at that speed and even flow into the void between the sabot petals.

Even PRs web site lists 120gr of Pyro and 100gr of T7 on the best groups. Well, that is pretty close to the speeds ive seen them shoot good. A 50x40 200gr SST might shoot nearly as flat at a bit more velocity and have been way more accurate for me with heavier loads.

I could become a better caller, and not have to take long shots. :biggrin:

how about the 200gr lehigh?

Grouse's bullet?


Probably not.