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pluckit 04-29-2011 12:57 PM

Experimenting
 
I tried Blachorn 209, Triple Se7en pellets and pyrodex loose today. A bunch of fun but not a bunch of success. I was out of 240 grain XTP's so I substituted with some discontinued 225 grain hollow point Speer's.



I wasn't getting good groups with the ammount of loose Pyrodex I have been trying so I decided to up the charge to 110 grains. It appeared to tighten the group up. But threw the group off to the left.

Muley Hunter 04-29-2011 01:13 PM

What were you looking for?

pluckit 04-30-2011 02:20 AM

I was out of Pyrodex Pellets so I thought I would try some different powders. I guess I'll have to buy some more Pellets now.

stripercrazy 04-30-2011 05:53 AM

do you think pellets are better than loose, I haven't given too much thought to it

builder459 04-30-2011 07:39 AM

The beauty of loose is you can fine tune the loads in 5 gr increments. it is also much cheaper to shoot. overall IMHO, it is much better all around..Ray

Muley Hunter 04-30-2011 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by pluckit (Post 3803850)
I was out of Pyrodex Pellets so I thought I would try some different powders. I guess I'll have to buy some more Pellets now.

I'm surprised the BH 209 wasn't more accurate for you. It's the most accurate for the majority who try it.

pluckit 04-30-2011 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 3803920)
I'm surprised the BH 209 wasn't more accurate for you. It's the most accurate for the majority who try it.

That's the second time I've tried it with this rifle and even with different loads I can't seem to get it to group. Yet with what is supposed to be the least productive, the Pyrodex Pellets, I get the best results with them in the Pursuit.

Muley Hunter 04-30-2011 10:10 AM

Muzzleloaders are funny like that. We all use what works for us. Even if it seems wrong sometimes.:confused0024:

pluckit 04-30-2011 10:35 AM

110 grains of loose Pyrodex showed some promise and I intend to give that load another try only with the 240 grain XTP'S next time. I would rather stick with loose if I can get it to work.

Omega45 04-30-2011 11:35 AM

Get a trigger job done on that smoker. :poke:

I talked to my buddy who said he has worked the trigger on the Traditions and can get them down to a nice 3lb pull.

pluckit 04-30-2011 11:40 AM

If I did I think I could give you and your Omega with that fancy Bergara barrel a run for your money!

Omega45 04-30-2011 11:49 AM

Its an Encore Pro Hunter. I'll throw the .50 barrel on it and use Triple 7 just to make it an even playing field. :D

Seriously look into a trigger job. Should only be $30-$40. Well worth the money for a nice trigger.

Gm54-120 04-30-2011 12:29 PM

Was that yellow sabot the 2 petal T/C EZ Glide? Those are extremely small loaded OD IIRC. I haven't seen many people get good results with them with any powder. Also did you use the 240gr XTP MAG? Typically they are not as accurate as the non mag 45cal XTPs also.

pluckit 04-30-2011 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Gm54-120 (Post 3803964)
Was that yellow sabot the 2 petal T/C EZ Glide? Those are extremely small loaded OD IIRC. I haven't seen many people get good results with them with any powder. Also did you use the 240gr XTP MAG? Typically they are not as accurate as the non mag XTPs also.

The yellow sabot was scavenged from the sabot that comes with the 250 grain Thompson center Shockwave. The bullet was a discontiued Speer 225 grain hollow point. Not an XTP.

Gm54-120 04-30-2011 12:51 PM

Experimenting is fun and even more fun when you have some reviews of those components. ;) All the 45cal 240gr XTPs are mags as far as i know. You may enjoy another bullet more if accuracy is an important part of the experiment.

pluckit 04-30-2011 01:37 PM

Of course accuracy was an important part of the experiment but I allready have a very good load worked up for the rifle. I was just hoping to stumble upon a better load.

pluckit 05-01-2011 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by stripercrazy (Post 3803884)
do you think pellets are better than loose, I haven't given too much thought to it

I like loose for the cost and the fact that it is much more stable. In other words, it won't break up or fall apart. As of now though, the pellets seem to be more accurate in my Pursuit. If I can keep the 110 grain load of Pyrodex loose grouping tight, as seen in target #4, I will have no need for the pellets.


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