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Semisane 03-28-2011 01:06 PM

Some Days You Can't Shoot For SQUAT
 
Well, it could have been worse I guess. But I was really hoping for better since it was only 50 yards.

I gave the .50 GM LRH TC Hawken a workout Saturday afternoon - a bright sunny eighty-five degree day with gusty wind.

The gun wears a TC Vernier peep sight with a fiber optic up front.



The plan was to shoot six different bullets over 95 grains of GOEX FFFg.



Here's what I got with each bullet.













This barrel is still pretty new. It had only twenty shots out of it before this session. I got a little "stutter" pushing loads down the bore, so gave it a few dozen strokes with JB bore paste when I cleaned it after the session.

One thing that surprised me in this session was the loading of those .458 Remingtons in Harvester sabots made for .451/452 bullets. They loaded fine, and no harder than with the MMP orange sabots made for .458 bullets.

All in all, the Deep Curls shot pretty well. Maybe that's just the best I can do with iron sights. :s2:

flounder33 03-28-2011 01:11 PM

:s2::s2::s2:It would kill a deer. Hey, what's with these 3 shot groups?:s2::s2::s2:

Semisane 03-28-2011 01:20 PM


Hey, what's with these 3 shot groups?:s2::s2::s2:
Dang flounder, `ya got me. Actually, I spent Friday afternoon and part of Saturday morning on an old tractor with a hard seat and loose steering bush hogging 3' high wheat on four food plots so the clover could grow. I was so tired I almost didn't shoot at all. I'd plan a session for Sunday morning also. But didn't get my sore @$$ and back out of bed until 10 a.m. and just packed up and headed home.

cayugad 03-28-2011 01:31 PM

Well being sore and tired is not news to me. Actually for trying the different sabots, there is some good work in there. I think you might want to adjust powder charges and then see what happens.

sabotloader 03-28-2011 01:41 PM

Semi

Welcome to my world....

Semisane 03-28-2011 01:49 PM


I think you might want to adjust powder charges and then see what happens.
Yeah, I need to do that Cayugad. I also want to try some Triple 7 with the Deep Curls.

I shot the other bullets just because I had them on hand. But the Speers will be my go-to bullet. If I can ever get those 300 grain Remington Semi Jacketed Hollow Points to shoot well I would not hesitate to hunt with them. I use them in my 45-70 with good results.

builder459 03-28-2011 01:50 PM

I have those SQUAT shooting days,he's related to Cr@P lol. Ray

Semisane 03-28-2011 01:51 PM


Welcome to my world....
:s2::s2: Old eyes or aching bones Sabotloader? :s2::s2::s2:

Semisane 03-28-2011 01:54 PM

Forgot to mention this - I really didn't see any advantage to the inverted triangle target. I think I prefer a 3" dot better.

pluckit 03-28-2011 02:35 PM

Looks like you have a pretty consistent 3 inch group going there. There's always something to be said for consistency.

pluckit 03-28-2011 02:38 PM

Just kidding. Is that a 1 in 28 inch twist in a 28 inch barrel?

pluckit 03-28-2011 02:57 PM

My last range sesion produced a 1.25 inch group at 100 yards with a scope that turned into a 2 inch group with open sights at 50 yards.

builder459 03-28-2011 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by pluckit (Post 3792308)
Just kidding. Is that a 1 in 28 inch twist in a 28 inch barrel?

The LRH .50 cal's are 1:28.. Ray

pluckit 03-28-2011 03:01 PM

It looks like if you throw out the third shot on the majority of those targets you would have had an excellent day. Did you swab the bore after every shot?

nchawkeye 03-28-2011 03:15 PM

What that tells you is this is how these bullets and sabots will group with 95grs of FFF Goex...

I don't like to take several different bullets and sabots to the range...I like to go with them one at a time and find what powder charge they like and then move to the next combo...

Who knows, maybe they they love 90grs???

As far as the loose steering...Is this a tractor with a worm gear where you can loosen the lock nut to adjust the play???

sabotloader 03-28-2011 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3792291)
:s2::s2: Old eyes or aching bones Sabotloader? :s2::s2::s2:

errrr yep! ta boat of em!:)

lemoyne 03-28-2011 06:43 PM

I hope you have better luck with the fiber optic sight than I do they increase the size of my groups considerable.

Semisane 03-28-2011 08:37 PM


Did you swab the bore after every shot?
Yes I did Pluckit. One side of one alcohol patch between shots.


I like to go with them (bullets & sabots) one at a time and find what powder charge they like and then move to the next combo...
I like to do it that way too nchawkeye, and it's what I usually do. This was just a play around session to see what happened.


As far as the loose steering...Is this a tractor with a worm gear where you can loosen the lock nut to adjust the play???
It's an old 1950's Ford with tie rods ends and joints/bushings that are in about the same condition as my 1940's body (pretty much shot). :biggrin:


I hope you have better luck with the fiber optic sight than I do they increase the size of my groups considerable.
I really don't do well with fiber optics either Lee. I much prefer the tall, wide, flat blade on my Great Plains and will probably get around to changing it out one day.

ripshod 03-30-2011 09:17 AM

Try some big conicals.I have shot bullets up to 495 grains with good results in my LRH .50 cal flint barrels.I harvested 2 deer with 460 No Excuses pushed by 75 grains of 3F Swiss last season.ripshod


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