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ShdBHuntng 03-27-2011 07:25 PM

Nikon or Bushnell
 
I just bought a new T/C Triumph now I am in the market for a scope. I have seen good reviews on both the Nikon BDC 300 and the Bushnell DOA 250, so I am looking for some other opinions.
Are there pros or cons to one or the other? I know that the Nikon is about $100 more than the Bushnell, but that is not a problem.
Just wanting to know what others think of these scopes.
Thanks

Omega45 03-28-2011 01:30 AM

I like the Bushnell DOA over the Nikon BDC. I prefer the lines over the circles and really do not care for 5" of eye relief. I seem to get a better sight picture and a better field of view with the Bushnell. Sometimes more expensive is not always better. Natchez had the Bushnell DOA's on sale for $146 with a free spotting scope. Just my .02 cents.

onetohunt 03-28-2011 04:31 AM

I would also look at the Vortex Diamondback. The scope is solid and very clear. It has the BDC as well. The warranty is second to none and the price is even better than the two that you mentioned. Just food for thought.

temphank 03-28-2011 05:04 AM

Last season I bought a Nikon Omega with the Nikoplex reticle and I love it. I mostly hunt in moderately wooded areas therefore I prefer the uncluttered crosshairs. For this same reason I chose the lower power version of this scope. 1.6 to 5X. I love the way the 1.6 opens up the field of view and lets in all that light during the wee hours of the morning.

I also bought the scope for the 5 inch eye relief. And i still prefer this feature even though I have found a slight drawback. Holding the scope in the store it is great. But when I am sitting in a tree stand with a bar in front of me to rest my elbow on - I typically lean forward. When I lean forward I naturally move my cheek forward (actually I think I am moving my shoulder back a bit ) and thus my eye relief is about 4 inches and I get the ( I don't know the technical name ) but you know, that little circle inside the scope you get when your eye is too close. Adjusting the scope all the way forward in the mount has helped. But I still need a second to readjust and pull my cheek back a little and then everything is fine. This isn't really a big problem but I thought I'd pass that along. Maybe with more scope experience I will learn to shoulder the ML properly with different body geometries.

This was my first scope so take my review with a large grain of salt. I suppose that all scopes require a slight adjustment to eye position depending on body geometry in different shooting positions.

bronko22000 03-28-2011 05:05 AM

Be interesting to see what you decide. I didn't think I would like the circles either until I tried them. Its pretty amazing how your eye centers the target in the circle. Just like using a peep. And you don't have the lines blocking part of your image. As for clarity I think they are pretty comparitable. But I think the Nikon has a bit of an edge. IMO I'd go with the Nikon.

smokey92 03-28-2011 05:12 AM

Actually the Bushnell DOA for ML's has a listed eye relief of 5.2" compared to 5" for the Omega.
Both very good scopes. You won't go wrong with either one.

lemoyne 03-28-2011 06:13 AM

They are both excellent choices, I prefer the Nikon for me its clearer at long range. Some like lines some like circles for me I like to see what I am shooting at especially with a small target at long range. The better ones for muzzleloaders have long eye relief so that with heavy loads at long range you don't get scope eye. if you never shoot heavy loads or long range you can get along with a cheap scope and don't need one like this any way.I know there are a lot of people that use loads like I taught my kids to shoot with and never put a good long range load in their gun.
Actually there are people who do most of there shooting at 20 to 50 yards and that's fine but they really don't need a good scope or a decent load for that range even if they prefer them. A lot of your scope needs depend on what you intend to do with it .

HEAD0001 03-28-2011 07:33 AM

I have several scopes with BDC style reticles. The Leupold VH, B&C, Burris Ballistic-Plex, Swaro. TDS, Minox BDC, and the Nikon BDC.

I have a Nikon Monarch with their BDC reticle. And IMO their reticle is crap. It is a cluster ****. I have no idea who came up with it, but it is not even close to the other BDC reticles that Leupold or others have. I took the Monarch off a rifle and put it on a 22 rifle. I think I am even going to sell it pretty soon. The glass in the Monarch is great, but that reticle is terrible.

Take a long look and shoot the different reticles before you buy. You will not be sorry. I have talked to a few guys who like the Nikon, but many who don't. Tom.

cayugad 03-28-2011 07:35 AM

I have both scopes.. I would hate to say one is better then the other. I have the Omega and the 3200. Both of them are under a great warranty, have excellent glass, great eye relief, although the 3200 does have rain guard.

Omega45 03-28-2011 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by smokey92 (Post 3792062)
Actually the Bushnell DOA for ML's has a listed eye relief of 5.2" compared to 5" for the Omega.
Both very good scopes. You won't go wrong with either one.

I have the Bushnell 3-9x40 Trophy DOA 250. Must be my eyes because there is no way I get 5" of eye relief looking through it. I do know they have 5" listed on the Bushnell website though........

The Nikon 3-9x40 BDC actually does give me the whole 5" of eye relief which tends to reduce my FOV.

Try them all and see which one suits you. I use Bass Pro and Gander Mtn to "look" and see if I like then find better deals online.

mountaineer magic 03-28-2011 12:47 PM

I have Bushnell DOA, Leupold Sabre,and Nikon Omegas. I much prefer the Nikon over the others. I really like the circles and I can taylor a load to the gun real easy by either centering the circle or using the bottom of the circle for holdover or using the top of the circle for a 6 oclock hold. I don't find the scope cluttered at all. Well worth the extra money for the Nikon over the Bushnell.

hubby11 03-28-2011 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by onetohunt (Post 3792049)
I would also look at the Vortex Diamondback. The scope is solid and very clear. It has the BDC as well. The warranty is second to none and the price is even better than the two that you mentioned. Just food for thought.

I would agree but that's not what he asked. :s3:

Both the Bushnell and the Omega have better listed eye relief, but the Diamondback has a significant advantage in field of view, 44.6 - 14.8' @ 100yds versus 33 - 11' (Bushnell) and 25.2 - 8.4' (Nikon).

smokey92 03-28-2011 04:23 PM

Omega45
"I have the Bushnell 3-9x40 Trophy DOA 250"


That's the one I was referring to, have not looked through one though. I almost bought one, but didn't. If I ever get a chance out west with my ML, I'll wish I had. I like a lot of eye relief, if you could, would you try to measure actual eye relief and report back?
I know published and actual can be different. Thanks.

50calty 03-28-2011 05:34 PM

I'll like my Omega. I have it on my Triumph and also on my Marilin .450 Guide Gun. So my vote is for the Omega.

Omega45 03-28-2011 05:44 PM

3.31" with Bushnell DOA 250 on TC Triumph
4.63" with Nikon BDC on TC Encore.

quake 03-29-2011 03:18 AM

I have a friend who has the Nikon Omega and he loves it. I believe the Nikon has slightly better light-transmission than the Bushnell.

If I personally had to choose between the two and price was not a factor I would get the Nikon.

Go to a local sporting goods store and have the salesperson take you outside with both scopes and look thru them at DUSK.


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