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bronko22000 03-17-2011 09:15 PM

That is if you remember to put any powder down the bore at all - right?
Ain't nothing like that feeling of pushing your PRB or conical down the bore and watching your indicator line on you ramrod disappear past the muzzle. One of those "Awww Crap" moments.

cayugad 03-18-2011 07:06 AM

The rifle is rated to 110 grains of powder, so I was still in the limit of the rifle at 105 grains. But what surprised me is, normally I shoot 90 grains (according to my notes) and never pushed the rifle harder. Now 15 grains is not that much more, but it seems this rifle is a powder pig. That would have had that roundball really screaming down range.



90 grains shows 1950 fps and 1478 ft lbs of energy.
100 grains shows 2052 fps and 1637 ft lbs of energy.
110 grains (max load) shows 2135 fps and 1772 ft lbs of energy.


Also Semisane.... I checked the see through powder measures I have. You are right. And they do throw light charges. I never knew that. The old brass pull out powder measures were so common for so long that I never questioned them.

sabotloader 03-18-2011 08:30 AM

cayugad

Careful there Dave, you are starting to get my mentality on the powder volumes, more is better:biggrin:

Just as a side note... This is volume measure that I use and over time it has proved top be the most consistent and very close to weight....



But, Dave it only goes to 120 grains:)

SJAdventures 03-18-2011 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3787374)
I have three of those TC U-Views and find that they all throw light charges.

Using GOEX FFg as a base, one would expect a 100 grain measure to throw a 100 grain weight charge. However the U-Views average around 90.5 grain weight when set at 100 grains volume, filled to overflowing and cut off without a tap down. Tapping down the initial fill and topping it off again before closing the funnel yields a charge of about 94 grains weight.

I am confused. I didn't think a 100gr by volume would be a 100gr by weight. Am I shooting a 110gr by volume if my U-View is set on 110gr?

cayugad 03-18-2011 09:57 AM

Black Powder measures volume to weight most times. But I was using a volume powder measure to make my loads.

Sabotloader I have one of them also. And three see through, and two pull out brass measures. Plus there are measure in each of the possible bags I keep. I just hate to look for them...

SJAdventures 03-18-2011 11:48 AM

Are you saying the TC U-View's are not putting out a true 110gr by volume when set at 110gr by volume?

MountainDevil54 03-18-2011 12:19 PM

i have one measure that throws a 100gr volume charge that should WEIGHT 71 grains. It however throws 69 grains. Another measure that throws 74.8 grains.

I actually just prefer to weigh my charges now.

Semisane 03-18-2011 12:50 PM

Check out the link below SJAdventures. It will either clear it up or confuse you more. :s3:

As a general rule, just remember that the theory behind volumemetric powder measures is that they are based on real black powder (probably FF grade) so that volume and weight are equal. So a 100 grain volume measure of FF black powder should weigh pretty close to 100 grains.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...han-yours.html

sabotloader 03-18-2011 03:19 PM

SJ

Cept for.... 100 grains of T7-2f, BH-209 and/or Swiss BP... they measure by volume to equal most BP's and BP subs but are able create approximately 15% more power than a 100 grain load of normal BP's and BP subs.

lemoyne 03-18-2011 03:34 PM

I have always used 3F to check powder measures with, an old timer told me that at Friendship Indiana in 1972 and I guess I have never questioned it. My U-View checks out close with it to.


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