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Scorpion PT Gold + Omega
I just got my sample from Harvester. They sent me the PT 260 gr, and some 270 gr Sabertooth, because he knows i'm in Colorado. He didn't know I don't shoot the ML season here, so sabots are ok for me.
I did try the Sabertooth down my bore, and they're too loose. Much looser than a Powerbelt. I wouldn't trust them to hold a tight pressure on BH 209. However, The PT Gold fit perfect. A nice steady pressure from muzzle to powder. I'm going out to shoot up the sample now. I just got the BH 209 too, and i'll try 100gr. I'm interested in what the recoil will be. I might go to 110gr if it's not too bad. I see no reason why the PT won't work for me. I've read too many good reviews to think otherwise. I'll shoot these then order the bullets in bulk, and the crush rib sabots. I didn't figure it exactly, but the bullet and sabot come out to about .60 cents. Pretty good compared to the rest. Especially for a bullet that I want to shoot no matter what the price was. Ok, it's windy, cold, and snowing, but i'm going. ..........Laters. |
Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
(Post 3783766)
I just got my sample from Harvester. They sent me the PT 260 gr, and some 270 gr Sabertooth, because he knows i'm in Colorado. He didn't know I don't shoot the ML season here, so sabots are ok for me.
I did try the Sabertooth down my bore, and they're too loose. Much looser than a Powerbelt. I wouldn't trust them to hold a tight pressure on BH 209. However, The PT Gold fit perfect. A nice steady pressure from muzzle to powder. I'm going out to shoot up the sample now. I just got the BH 209 too, and i'll try 100gr. I'm interested in what the recoil will be. I might go to 110gr if it's not too bad. I see no reason why the PT won't work for me. I've read too many good reviews to think otherwise. I'll shoot these then order the bullets in bulk, and the crush rib sabots. I didn't figure it exactly, but the bullet and sabot come out to about .60 cents. Pretty good compared to the rest. Especially for a bullet that I want to shoot no matter what the price was. Ok, it's windy, cold, and snowing, but i'm going. ..........Laters. |
I shoot only PT Golds in my Accura. Thats all I shot in my Omega also. They are an extremely accurate bullet. 1" groups or less in both rifle with either the 260gr or the 300gr. They also have a 240gr PT Gold if you wanted a lighter bullet. Accuracy is the same. I shoot 110gr BH209 in both rifles with CR sabots. Recoil is nothing to be afraid of unless you have a very tender shoulder. I am 70 years old and the recoil is mild in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Rogo
(Post 3783816)
I shoot only PT Golds in my Accura. Thats all I shot in my Omega also. They are an extremely accurate bullet. 1" groups or less in both rifle with either the 260gr or the 300gr. They also have a 240gr PT Gold if you wanted a lighter bullet. Accuracy is the same. I shoot 110gr BH209 in both rifles with CR sabots. Recoil is nothing to be afraid of unless you have a very tender shoulder. I am 70 years old and the recoil is mild in my opinion.
Yeah, I have a bum shoulder. 100gr is ok, and I might go to 110gr. I'm closing in on 69 years old. |
Originally Posted by Rogo
(Post 3783816)
I shoot only PT Golds in my Accura. Thats all I shot in my Omega also. They are an extremely accurate bullet. 1" groups or less in both rifle with either the 260gr or the 300gr. They also have a 240gr PT Gold if you wanted a lighter bullet. Accuracy is the same. I shoot 110gr BH209 in both rifles with CR sabots. Recoil is nothing to be afraid of unless you have a very tender shoulder. I am 70 years old and the recoil is mild in my opinion.
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I expect bang flop to 200 yds.
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Shooting 200 yards I would go with the 300gr. More energy left at 200 yards with the 300gr. Nice to see another senior citizen still doing it in the woods. LOL!
Try the 300 with 110gr BH209, it might work better for you at 200 yards especially on a mulie. Only have whitetail here in Vermont but I believe a muley is much bigger. |
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Muley Hunter,
Glad you like the PT's. They are an accurate bullet and you do not bust a vein in the forehead seating them with the crush rib sabot. I have shot some of my best groups on paper with them but never got the opportunity to shoot any deer with them. I gave a friend some of the 300gr PT's at the range last Saturday and he loved how they grouped. Let us know how they work out when you get her scoped up. What scope are you going with? Here is a 3 shot 100yd group with my Pro Hunter w/ Encore Bergara barrel with the 300PT's. |
Originally Posted by Omega45
(Post 3783847)
Muley Hunter,
Glad you like the PT's. They are an accurate bullet and you do not bust a vein in the forehead seating them with the crush rib sabot. I have shot some of my best groups on paper with them but never got the opportunity to shoot any deer with them. I gave a friend some of the 300gr PT's at the range last Saturday and he loved how they grouped. Let us know how they work out when you get her scoped up. What scope are you going with? If it works out i'll buy a good fixed scope. If it doesn't i'll buy a good 3x9. The Simmons was $40 at Natchez, so i'm not out much if it doesn't work. |
I got a few Whitetails hanging on the wall that were wacked with a Rem 870 slug gun that had a Simmons Pro Diamond 4X riding on top of it. Its a good scope, I would just want a little more zoom out to 200yds but that's me....I like to zoom in.
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Originally Posted by Rogo
(Post 3783846)
Shooting 200 yards I would go with the 300gr. More energy left at 200 yards with the 300gr. Nice to see another senior citizen still doing it in the woods. LOL!
Try the 300 with 110gr BH209, it might work better for you at 200 yards especially on a mulie. Only have whitetail here in Vermont but I believe a muley is much bigger. T7 powder 110 gr 260 gr PT Gold Muzzle... 2025fps/2365 fpe 100yd....1680fps/1625fpe 200yd....1395fps/1125fpe That's plenty for Muley's To compare with 300gr T7 powder 110gr 300gr PT Gold Muzzle.........1995fps/2640fpe 100yd..........1670fps/1885fpe 200yd..........1400fps/1305fpe No doubt the 300gr has more power, but I consider it an elk load, and a bit overkill for deer. At 200yds the 260gr is shooting flatter. I'd prefer to have that over more fpe. With that said. I'll try the 300gr and see if I like it. |
Originally Posted by Omega45
(Post 3783855)
I got a few Whitetails hanging on the wall that were wacked with a Rem 870 slug gun that had a Simmons Pro Diamond 4X riding on top of it. Its a good scope, I would just want a little more zoom out to 200yds but that's me....I like to zoom in.
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T7 powder 110 gr 260 gr PT Gold
Muzzle... 2025fps/2365 fpe 100yd....1680fps/1625fpe 200yd....1395fps/1125fpe That's plenty for Muley's To compare with 300gr T7 powder 110gr 300gr PT Gold Muzzle.........1995fps/2640fpe 100yd..........1670fps/1885fpe 200yd..........1400fps/1305fpe No doubt the 300gr has more power, but I consider it an elk load, and a bit overkill for deer. At 200yds the 260gr is shooting flatter. I'd prefer to have that over more fpe. With that said. I'll try the 300gr and see if I like it.[/QUOTE] Muley Hunter, I'd check those velosities with your gun and your load. I've shot the 300's with 100 of T7 and was in 1700 - 1750 range on the Chono. My Z5 Omega loves the 300's with a Crushed Rib. While I don't have the pictures of the bullets terminal performance ( The bullet picture that is ) I can tell you they're 2 for 2 on deer. My groups tightend up when I went up to the heavier bullet. |
I got those figures from Harvester, so they may be exaggerated.
In another thread I talked about switching to elk. I've always hunted both elk and deer in the past. I was going to hunt just deer, but I think hunting just elk will be better. So, I will be using the 300gr PT Gold. Probably better in case I run into a grumpy bear too. I guess I should increase the powder to 110 gr too. Good thing I installed a Simms Limbsaver recoil pad. The Omega pad was terrible. edit..Just had a thought. They probably used T7 3F for the test. Is that what you're using? 2F will be slower. |
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