heck i even seen dudley hunting in africa with his apex and shooting 100gr Whitehots with the 444 powerbelt LOL.

Then im sure he wouldn't mind coming here and give us all some advice on CVA's max load data, :D

Just finished shooting the 360 lee minies and i am glad to say that loaded a lot more consistent now that ive greased my mold. Group was not acceptable, i was hoping the 60gr load would do good but they like the heavier 90+ grain BH209 charge. Oh well!

I'll order some powerbelts and start working up some loads for his sons gun and see what i can come up with. If i were able to use my standard loads, he'd be able to thread bullets into the same hole out to 100 yards lol. Darn restrictions!

OK. i just can't see paying for PB'd when a .250 gr xtp/gold dot will do just as well with lite loads.. have at it lol Ray

i dont know how well those sabots will shoot with only 60 grains of BH209. His son is looking for a tight shooting load with 60 because of the restrictions they have in the shooting competition.

Plus they have to be lead, no copper coating allowed.

MD, i told you how they shoot lol. the wolverine came with .260 gr all lead bullets, that shot very well. hell some .250 gr cheap shots with a good sabot will shoot fine. but ok!! it doesn't take a lot of powder to push a saboted .250 gr bullet accurately.. Ray

I would keep it under 250 gr for that young man are go shot some yourself to see what they do keep it light for less recol

When i am shooting with the kids,I use a single Pyro pellet under a Hornady Cheap Shot. Easy to load,low recoil,accurate,and Cheap too.The kids have a blast.Round ball works well too,same charge.

Charlie

Exactly, but MD is stuck on expensive power belts and doesn't seem to think lighter saboted bullets with low powder charges will shoot accurately.. go figure!! Ray

i dont care what the kid shoots, as long as its accurate.

What lead is out there thats know to shoot tight groups with a low charge? He's buying the ammo, im just going to be working up loads for his sons accura until i find something shooting tight.