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At the shop where I bought the XTP's today the owner had some .451 Speer bullets that came in a plastic yellow box of 100 that looks exactly like the box TC round balls come in. It didn't say Deep Curl or Gold Dot or anything but Speer on the box. The bullets looked similar to the XTP. Does anyone know what kind of Speer bullets they are? He said they don't sell so I might be able to get them at a reduced price.

Sounds like old stock pluckit and may be the pre-Gold Dot bonded bullets. What weight were they? Is there a four digit product number on the box?

pluckit

The old .451 Speers were called Jacketed Hollow Points. They are constructed basically the same as an XTP. You did not say what weight they were but this link might be what they are...

http://www.speer-bullets.com/ballist...il.aspx?id=208

I think even Speer used numbers to designate there model of Bullet. If you could have gotten this number of the box someone would be able to look it up for you.

Ken

I think they were 245 gr.

Better off buying the dot/curls, much better bullet! and not very expensive either..looking forward to seeing how they shoot from that carbine.. Ray

The number on the box is 4479 and the grain weight is 225 while the description says only hollow point bullets but they are jacketed. Any ideas as to what exactly they are? They come in a box of 100 and he is asking $20.55 per box. He's just a small shop and charges pretty high for everything so what do you think of the price or what aould a good price be. At $20.55 that's a little over twenty and a half cents per bullet. That seems good to me. He sells sabots for 8.95 per 50 which would come to about 18 cents per sabot totaling no more than 40 cents per round. That's high right?

To me that is a little too much for those bullets. I have some old Speer Gold Dots and I think (don't quote me) that I was paying $13.00 for a yellow box.

PLUCKIT
4469 is a 225 gr bullet. can't find a 4479. Check the number on that box when you go back.I don't know what that type of bullet cost where anyone else lives,but, that sounds like a fair price to me.I give 20 to 25 dollars for a box of 100 of that type bullet in 230gr.

I am positive it was 4479. Do you know the name of the 4469 bullet? I just asked Speer Bullets what the name of the 4479 bullet is and they say a response should be made within the next few days. And since it wasn't listed I asked if they even made it anymore.

That's a discontinued .45 ACP bullet. The price is OK, but not great. If you want plinkers go for it. I wouldn't use them for hunting anything but small game because I just don't know if they were bonded or not.

See the current Speer 45 ACP bullets here: http://www.speer-bullets.com/ballist...nd=0&firearm=2

You can click on the PRODUCT SELECTOR section where is says "45 Auto" and change it to "45 Revolver" to see the rest of their line for 45's.

If you do a google search of " speer 4479 bullet" you will only get "About 178,000 results (0.15 seconds) " hits as to what the bullet is. I think some were in the 178,000 hits/links you will find the answere to your qestions.

I also saw the guy had some sabots for a .54 cal. rifle that held a .451 cal. bullet. I was really interested in it but wondered "What's the point?"

I got an answer from speer.
RE: Speer Bullets-Ask Speer Form
This was a Speer .451 pistol bullet, 225 grain Jacketed hollw point, with a crimping cannelure.
Crap, as I was copying the email and I lost it. Anyway, They said it has been discontinued. Does anyone know what a crimping cannelure is?http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...667/667170.jpg Midway has the bullet for $26.39 so $20.55 can't be too bad.

A crimping cannelure is the groove in the jacket for crimping the brass case into. Usually cases like 9mm and 45ACP dont use that style of crimping. Its far more common in 45colt or other calibers used in revolvers so the bullets dont move under recoil from the previous rounds.