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Breechplug 01-10-2011 07:23 PM

How many of You are Happy the way you are?
 
With all the new Powders, Bullets, MLer's ect...How many of you are Happy using what you now use and are not going to change to anything new.
Sure something New always comes along, but do you feel like your Content in your Current set up, or do you feel you need More and are in need of something better weather it be Powder, bullets, Sabots, Breechplugs, MLer's or whatever. Is there something you just need to Improve on? Or is your current MLer set-up Perfect for you? If it's not out there yet, what would you like to see or have improved on to make you feel like you've reached your goal in the Ultimate Muzzleloading Shooting Machine.
(BP)

builder459 01-10-2011 07:48 PM

I am happy with everything with the exception of 777.i really don't like the crud ring, everything else about it i am extremely happy with.i have some BH coming soon and if it's what most people say it is, that will be the only change i make. the triumph i use is accurate,easy to clean,light weight and fits me well. the Barnes and gold dot bullets i use i am very happy with also.although i am going to try heavier weight bullets in both brands.i suspect soon BH will have some competition and the price will come down on it. Ray.

nchawkeye 01-10-2011 07:49 PM

I'm good...Both flinters love Goex FFF and homemade balls and the Knight loves Goex FFF and Hornady XTPs...No reason to change...

corey012778 01-10-2011 07:55 PM

I am always looking for something better, but end up going back to pyrodex p loads. seem to work well with almost every gun I have/had.

MountainDevil54 01-10-2011 08:06 PM

my muzzle loaders have been great, powder is excellent, bullets are excellent, primers are great. The only real reason we try new things is just to make things a little more fun and adventure.

johnnyo 01-10-2011 08:07 PM

I'm happy with my set up for deer. My Triumph loves Barnes TEZ and Bh209, but because I'm new to muzzleloading I like to experiment with different bullets and loads. There's just so many options.

I'd love to have a traditional style muzzleloader. Probably a bigger bore/round ball shooter.

Competition with BH209 would be great and I see a increased need for lead free projectiles.

Semisane 01-10-2011 08:08 PM

I have my "go to" hunting load combination for each gun. It's one that I have complete confidence in for that particular gun. Every one uses GOEX as the propellant with round balls, Gold Dots/Deep Curls, or XTPs as the projectiles. I like to do a "trajectory study" for the gun's load and keep the target in my file (see sample below). So when I pick a gun to hunt with all I have to do is check the study to see where the load should hit at various ranges.

But I can't help experimenting with different powders and bullets just for the heck of it. I enjoy playing around with different components, especially stuff I get cheap at end of season sales and such.


Gm54-120 01-11-2011 05:20 AM

The only other thing i want is a fast twist 45. Either a 45 smokeless barrel for my Savage or a SuperDISC. Even a White .451 would be nice.

I would like to see BlackMag hit the market this year just for a little competition for BH209. It was actually more expensive per shot but i would have liked to try it.

onetohunt 01-11-2011 05:33 AM

I'm still wanting one of those new Knights! I don't know if they will be as good or even better than the disc series, but I'm dieing to find out.

Gm54-120 01-11-2011 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by onetohunt (Post 3755929)
I'm still wanting one of those new Knights! I don't know if they will be as good or even better than the disc series, but I'm dieing to find out.

I cant wait to see them either.

I know one thing, i got a 52cal LRH barrel/action just before they listed the LE run of the LRHs. The barrel was beautiful. Its one of the few bores that was like a mirror out of the box.

lemoyne 01-11-2011 06:12 AM

Being Happy is a flexable condition for some of us, while I have way more guns than I need and each has several go to loads that I have confidence in, a major part of the fun for me is the trying and checking out of everything that comes out that I find interesting. Making equipment is part of being a Amiture radio operater which I have done for a good part of my life and it has helped me with a few of the things I use to test loads. Shooting is fun, really knowing all that you can about what is going on when you shoot adds to it for some of us.

Nimrodder 01-11-2011 06:26 AM

I'm perfectly happy with my White's. They are reliable and accurate to an extreme and their is a pride in ownership in one of these rifles that I can't explain. But I will probably buy one of the new Knights for something new to mess around with then it wll end up in the classifieds like all the other TC's, Knights and CVA's that I have owned.

sabotloader 01-11-2011 06:44 AM

Breechplug

Sure I am fairly happy with all the guns, bullets, and powders that i use today. But to say that I am so content I would not look in the future is crazy. Somebody is going to develope something new that really is useful and I am not going to be so content that I am immoveable.

cayugad 01-11-2011 06:56 AM

Satisfied would describe me. But personally I think many of us got into this sport, and strive in this sport to always find the that perfect load. If we were not always looking for the something better, there would not be this selection of powders we discuss, or bullets we try, sabots we use, even primers. Not to mention rifles and all the twists, etc.

I an satisfied that I can and do shoot a real good muzzleloader with a good accurate load. But I am never content to leave it at that. I am going to find the exact powder charge, the exact seating pressure, etc. All it takes is time and experimentation.

RobertSubnet 01-11-2011 07:15 AM

I would also describe myself as "satisfied."

I got in to this sport out of an interest in flintlocks. Over the past 3 years my knowledge has grown a lot. My respect, admiration and appreciation have grown tremendously for the people who once depended upon these weapons to defend themselves, their homes, put food on the table and win our independence.

I will always want to add new weapons to the collection. Who doesn't? But muzzle loading has been and continues to be very rewarding.

Breechplug 01-11-2011 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3755968)
Breechplug

Sure I am fairly happy with all the guns, bullets, and powders that i use today. But to say that I am so content I would not look in the future is crazy. Somebody is going to develope something new that really is useful and I am not going to be so content that I am immoveable.

I guess you Guy's missed part of what I asked in my opening statement. I asked is there something (You would like to see Improved or Changed) to make things better as in Powders, Bullets, Sabots, MLer's ect ect....as then you would be Satisfied with your current MLer set up to where you could now say (It's Perfect and Im Happy Now).
So Yes what Im asking is Looking into the Future what would you all like to see Improved on?
(BP)

Backwoods7 01-11-2011 08:37 AM

I'm happy with my set up and see no need to Change all I want to do is buy another online so I have a backup inline

RobertSubnet 01-11-2011 08:57 AM


So Yes what Im asking is Looking into the Future what would you all like to see Improved on?
My bank account so I can buy more guns!

Seriously I am happy with how things are now. About the only thing I would like to see changed are the laws retailers have to abide by to sell black powder. But I don't think that is what you are looking for.

Ezbagr 01-11-2011 12:31 PM

I am very happy with my gun-Reminton Genesis-the bullet-300 grain
XTP and the powder BH209. Saying that, I am truly disgusted with the nut behind the wheel. My deer season started bad-hurt my left shoulder pretty bad shooting my bow-did bowhunt but probably should not have-shoulder not very good-1st shotgun season missed a decent buck at 85 yards-buck nwas just milling around and I get in a big hurry and miss-then 2nd season I ended up wounding a decent buck at 50 yards-just did not put the crosshairs where they needed to be-I have been deer hunting for 35 years and you would think that I should know what I am doing by now-I can still see in my mind the buck running running off.

Rogo 01-11-2011 12:57 PM

I am almost satisfied with my ML. It is a CVA Accura and I just need to improve the breechplug a little more. I have 2 of Ron's #8 bolt bp's and they work really good. I am saving a little bit of cash so that I can get one the Breechplugs with a vent liner in it and then I think I will be completely satisfied. Out of the several different ml's I have owned in the past 12 years I believe this Accura is the best of the bunch, at least for me. Fits me well after shortening the stock (I'm just a little guy), shoots excellent and I can hit what I aim at out to 225 yards with my set-up. I think the vent liner breechplug will complete my desires in a ML and give me the final confidence that the shot will go boom without fail.

gregrn43 01-11-2011 01:45 PM

I happy with my guns and the loads that I use in each of them. I mainly hunt with only two of my guns. My White when I'm hunting the woods and my Optima Elite when I sitting on the fields. I have seriously been thinking about buying a triumph ever since I sighted in my cousins bonecollector back in October. I would for sure buy another White if I could ever find one for sale.

smokey92 01-11-2011 04:06 PM

I've been told by more than my wife that I'm never satisfied.
Currently good with Pyrodex, BH209, and a number of projectiles for my percussion and my 209. Now if I had more time and places to hunt, I just, might, be satisfied.

builder459 01-11-2011 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Rogo (Post 3756157)
I am almost satisfied with my ML. It is a CVA Accura and I just need to improve the breechplug a little more. I have 2 of Ron's #8 bolt bp's and they work really good. I am saving a little bit of cash so that I can get one the Breechplugs with a vent liner in it and then I think I will be completely satisfied. Out of the several different ml's I have owned in the past 12 years I believe this Accura is the best of the bunch, at least for me. Fits me well after shortening the stock (I'm just a little guy), shoots excellent and I can hit what I aim at out to 225 yards with my set-up. I think the vent liner breechplug will complete my desires in a ML and give me the final confidence that the shot will go boom without fail.

One would think that all of the various blackpowder firearm makers will design there breech plugs to ignite all BP subs reliably.CVA didn't get it right and i am darn curious to see if Knight does.

falcon 01-11-2011 06:10 PM

i'm happy with my muzzleloaders and their loads. Those guns are temporarily idle while hogs fall to my .223. One or two of my muzzleloaders will go away this year because they are seldom used.

ADVWannabee 01-12-2011 11:11 AM

Knight Revolution

With 100 gr of Pyrodex pellets and 250 gr Hornady SST bullets, I can put bullets touching at 100 yards. Assuming the bullets prove lethal on deer, I am perfectly satisfied. I will say that I am going to lighten the trigger but it is adjustable on the Knight so no real "change" is needed.


TC Encore

With the same powder and bullets listed above, I am hitting well enough for hunting but not as well as I would like or as well as I am with the Knight. I will lighten the trigger by getting a new spring and if that doesn't help, may try different bullets. If that doesn't help, may just live with it. I am not a paper puncher so I am not overly concerned with MOA groups.

So in summary, I am satisfied with the Knight, mostly satisfied with the Encore at least until I get a few deer with the bullets and see how they do. My main concern is little or know tracking required.

gearheart 01-13-2011 02:19 PM

I have a 54 TC hawken and a 50 WMC also TC. I shoot round ball over holy black and it works just fine. My deer are just as dead as the next guy's and in the woods where I hunt 70 yard shots are long. I run my own round balls and life is good.

Jaderman 01-13-2011 06:14 PM

I love my T/C Omega Z5 fiber optic sights. I shoot it with Powerbelt .50 cal 245 gr hollow points and 100 gr of Triple Seven 50/50 pellets. It was DEAD-NUTS @50 yards right out of the box!! And same as gearheart - 70 yards is a long shot where I hunt...

SJAdventures 01-13-2011 06:20 PM

Completely happy with my setup. Barnes 250gr TMZ - Harvester Yellow CR sabot -105gr BH209 (will be tinkering with the load to see if can tighten very good groups into great groups) - Win 209 primers - TC Pro Hunter 50 cal - I do have a new # 3 Bellm trigger sear spring to put in after deer season is over to give it a lighter trigger.

Breechplug 01-14-2011 06:27 AM

Well I guess I never answered My own Thread. I too am Completely Satisfied with My current Mler set up. The one I rely on and trust beyond any doubt is My ACCURA Camo/SS. I have a Leupold Ultimate Slam MLer Scope on it, 240gr XTP in front of a Harevster MMP HPH 24 Sabot powered by 110gr's of Pyro RS.and a T7 Primer. This is a Tac Driver. My ACCURA will put 1" groups at 100 yds and do all most as well at 200.
Even though this is a V1 and I get a very small amount of Blow Back I can live with that part, I just could'nt justify getting a new V2 for the QRBP, even though I would have liked to see em put that on the V1 and leave everything else alone. Im not big on the looks of the V2.
So yea Im Satisfied, I would'nt trade My current set up for anyother MLer, it's just too good and reliable of a shooter and I have 1000% Confidence in it and that's what matters the most.
(BP)

alleyyooper 01-14-2011 10:58 AM

Happy as a pig in a wallow on a hot day. Two old Remington 700 inlines have done all I've asked of them as have the two old T/C side locks.
Any changes would be in the money department so I could deer hunt more states and provinces.
Seasons just are not long enough with enough bag limits in one place.

:D Al


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