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HEAD0001 12-19-2010 01:20 PM

45 or 50??
 
I have been kicking around a purchase of a Green Mountain LRH barel for a nice Renegade I have sitting in the safe. I was all set on getting a 50 caliber, but I started doing a little more shopping. And it looks like they also make that barrel in a 1in28"-45 caliber barrel. I thought that was intriguing. I have a few 45 caliber molds. I also have a .451 mold for my WhitWorth rifle(the round bullet-not the hexagonal). I am starting to lean toward the 45 caliber. What do you guys think?? Anybody have one in 45 caliber?? If so what is the bore?? .450??

I also noticed they have one in Stainless. Is SS a little too funky looking on a traditional rifle like the Renegade?? Thanks, Tom.

cayugad 12-19-2010 01:52 PM

Well I own them in both stainless steel and in the blued version. Actually in my personal opinion I like the looks of the stainless steel barrel. It reminds of the kit when I assembled it and before I browned the barrel of the original renegade it is on.

I was shooting the .45 caliber yesterday. Great shooting rifle. 85 grains of Goex 3f and a 180 grain Gold Dot and it was making a hole at 50 yards. Even the 200 grain Hornady XTP did real well. I do not know how hard I can push that bullet before it falls apart. I want to try some of the Lehigh bullets out of it.

I am not sure what the dimension of the bore is as I never slugged it. But the standard .45 caliber sabot and a 10mm bullet is a nice snug fitting load.

I have scopes mounted on the Stainless Steel models and no scopes on the blued models.



There is the .50 after a hard day on the range. They clean up like a dream by the way.

idahoron 12-19-2010 02:03 PM

I have both as well. For all around hunting I think that the 50 is a better choice. The two 45's I have are both different. 1 has a 1-28 twist .451 and the other is a 1-18 twist .458. The max length for the 1-28 is about .875 or less. There is not many bullets that fall into that catagory but there are some options. Mine also tend to like lead that is a pinch harder than pure. I like my 45's but only death will part me from my 50. Ron

zakjak711 12-19-2010 02:16 PM

50
 
Cayugad,

Scope on that gun just looks out of place.
Not that I'm a Traditional guy--cause I ain't.


Mark

sabotloader 12-19-2010 02:47 PM

HEAD0001

Tom, i have both Blued and stainless in my Rene stocks. I really do like the stainless... blue is nice, but stainless well it's set it apart.... course I can not bring myself to do the Semisane or Cayugad thing - they remain un-scoped...



Now days the Hawken stock is gone and evertything is in a Renegade stock... I am just a plain old guy so I like the plain old Renegade...

45 or 50 - ifn you have a 50 might as well get a 45... I have often thought about just that thing for Rondie shoots... But a fast twist 45 would make an excellent deer hunter....

cayugad 12-19-2010 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by zakjak711 (Post 3744269)
Cayugad,

Scope on that gun just looks out of place.
Not that I'm a Traditional guy--cause I ain't.


Mark


Well I don't have any with a silver finish, and I don't spend much on scopes. This $39.00 scope might not sound like much, but so far I have not been able to shake it apart, and the clarity of the glass is excellent. It is a Simmon Pro Diamond 4x32mm.

As far as whether it looks right... I really don't care. I am not into looks as much as I am function.

cayugad 12-19-2010 03:50 PM

Sabotloader... which Lehigh do you think would shoot good out of that .45 and what kind of push will they take?

sabotloader 12-19-2010 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3744332)
Sabotloader... which Lehigh do you think would shoot good out of that .45 and what kind of push will they take?

While I prefer the 40/200 grain - probably the best option is the 40/185DOA. It does not have to driven as hard from a 1/28 twist. Normal 90-100 grains loads will push it along just fine.

cayugad 12-19-2010 05:48 PM

thanks.. that might be a lot of fun to shoot.

sabotloader 12-19-2010 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3744386)
thanks.. that might be a lot of fun to shoot.

Oh it is.... like shooting a 22 mag - with a 308 bullet going down range.... You can shoot that load all day everyday...


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