Knight Rifles coming back to the market!
07-03-2010, 03:11 PM
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rivesville, WV
Posts: 3,192
Personally I hope Knight just keeps it small. And does not try to compete with the cheap rifles, and does not try to compete with the advertising of TC.
When Knight first came out their rifles(MK 85) were revolutionary. YES. But more important-their rifles were pure quality. Top notch triggers, the best barrels, and good stocks. they were just good quality rifles.
Then they went the way of the marketers. They let people convince them that their rifle was harder to clean. After all it did take 30 extra seconds to remove the bolt?? And people fell for that crap.
Personally I still think the MK-85 is one of the finest rifles still available on the market today. However they will not command the price they did when they first started making them.
It is a shame, but to make a quality product in America is difficult to do at a good price. I hate to see it, but Knight is probably again doomed to failure. Just not enough market out there. And not enough money to compete with TC in the advertising game. Tom.
When Knight first came out their rifles(MK 85) were revolutionary. YES. But more important-their rifles were pure quality. Top notch triggers, the best barrels, and good stocks. they were just good quality rifles.
Then they went the way of the marketers. They let people convince them that their rifle was harder to clean. After all it did take 30 extra seconds to remove the bolt?? And people fell for that crap.
Personally I still think the MK-85 is one of the finest rifles still available on the market today. However they will not command the price they did when they first started making them.
It is a shame, but to make a quality product in America is difficult to do at a good price. I hate to see it, but Knight is probably again doomed to failure. Just not enough market out there. And not enough money to compete with TC in the advertising game. Tom.
07-04-2010, 07:24 AM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hayes, Va.
Posts: 2,332
MD can't help himself. Lord knows I have my own preferences. As Does many on this board I would think. 
I have only had one Knight product and that was my Knight Vision with the new, improved BP. I shoot BH209 and Hornday FPB bullets and this gun shines. I use it primarily for any long range shooting I will be doing.
As to other of their products, I really can't say. I must admit that I got into ML because of two additional weeks of deer hunting here in Virginia. But I have been bitten with this damned bug and I am into all manners of black powder shooting!
I have only had one Knight product and that was my Knight Vision with the new, improved BP. I shoot BH209 and Hornday FPB bullets and this gun shines. I use it primarily for any long range shooting I will be doing.
As to other of their products, I really can't say. I must admit that I got into ML because of two additional weeks of deer hunting here in Virginia. But I have been bitten with this damned bug and I am into all manners of black powder shooting!
07-06-2010, 06:53 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pa
Posts: 4,647
Knight did make a entry level gun that shot AWSOME... It was called the wolverine... I think it cost around 200 bucks... Gun shot just as good as my disc rifle for less than half the price...
I love my Knight rifle!!! Tryed to talk my friend into one when he decided to get into muzzleloading... He bought T/C... Just like everybody else did...
Knight will have to take there guns over sea's to compete...
Hell anymore I wouldn't want anything made in the US by lazy americans!!!
I love my Knight rifle!!! Tryed to talk my friend into one when he decided to get into muzzleloading... He bought T/C... Just like everybody else did...
Knight will have to take there guns over sea's to compete...
Hell anymore I wouldn't want anything made in the US by lazy americans!!!
07-07-2010, 03:13 PM
#16
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Comance county, OK
Posts: 11,408
Austin and Halleck and Gonic sold fine quality made in the USA guns. They are now out of business. i'm not sure that there is a market for fine quality made in the USA muzzleloaders any more. Sadly, there may not be a market for fine quality made in the USA anything.
i hope that Knight Rifles is able to make a triumphant return to the M/L market. But it is going to be rough sled ride at least for the short term.
i hope that Knight Rifles is able to make a triumphant return to the M/L market. But it is going to be rough sled ride at least for the short term.
Last edited by falcon; 07-07-2010 at 03:15 PM.
07-07-2010, 03:20 PM
#17
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Central Connecticut
Posts: 766
Well maybe one good thing about the buyout is that they're not strapped with excessive high overhead costs and debt.
And if you look into the background of the buyer Plastic Industries, they have a lot of money from strong growth and sales over the years. A good & smart private company like that should be able to regrow Knight back into decent shape. The new owner isn't going to let his money get thrown away.
Will Knight survive?
Even if it's only on a smaller scale, you can bet your last dollar that they will!
And if you look into the background of the buyer Plastic Industries, they have a lot of money from strong growth and sales over the years. A good & smart private company like that should be able to regrow Knight back into decent shape. The new owner isn't going to let his money get thrown away.
Will Knight survive?
Even if it's only on a smaller scale, you can bet your last dollar that they will!
Last edited by arcticap; 07-07-2010 at 03:28 PM.
07-07-2010, 04:57 PM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,037
I am pretty sure A&H was US. The only rifle I own that is foreign made is my Lyman GPR. I own a Gonic, two Whites, and a few Knight's. I really do agree that Knight's comeback is going to be a tough row to hoe. It is hard to compete with foreign labor. I think T/C is on the verge right now. Everybody wants to keep their jobs but yet they are too cheap to pay a few extra bucks and buy American. It's a vicious cycle.
07-07-2010, 05:43 PM
#20
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
flounder33
The barrels were Spanish... they had the same proof marks that you would find on the CVA barrels of the time. Later when the company was moved to Utah, they eventually did change the proof mark to a greater value.
The barrels were Spanish... they had the same proof marks that you would find on the CVA barrels of the time. Later when the company was moved to Utah, they eventually did change the proof mark to a greater value.