A new addition to Muzzlleloading.
 

John Smith from Butler Pa joined me in a late ML season in Ohio. It was his first time using an inline and he had alot of fun. I let him borrow my T/C Triumph topped with a Nikon Omega BDC scope, 130grns of BH209 and a 250grn Lehigh bullet. Here is one of the two Doe's he shot last year.



So now he started shooting some Knight Muzzleloaders to try and figure out what he wants to purchase. After we left the range he said he will be buying a bolt action Knight rifle. Here are some pics of targets he shot at 100yds with the Knight Vision, and the Knight Super Disc.









This is a Picture of his spring Gobbler before he shot with a Remington 1187 Shotgun.

Nice! It's always cool when you can get another person involved in muzzleloading... or hunting for that matter. I'm sure he'll be just as crazy about smoke poles as the rest of us are. Are you talking him into joining the forum?

He got started with the right brand rifle. It is pretty tough to beat a Knight rifle. Now if you can talk him into getting up on that rifle for a good cheek weld??:confused0024: Tom.

The ML is unloaded in this picture. I had him take his shooting glasses off for some pictures. He normally has pretty good form.

I'm sure he will join shortly.

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[QUOTE=NamGrunt;3632246]Hi all: Yes I'm new to the 'Ole Smoke Pole" but I slid out the shoot with a BB Gun in hand at birth. I am very fortunate to have Grouse45 as a mentor and the pics. posted allowed me to have groups like he submitted.

Welcome to the site NamGrunt! Glad to have ya!

Welcome NamGrunt and yes Tom is a good mentor and good luck finding the right gun. I think todays choices in firearms are good as they have ever been. If you search around it seems ever gun is good for sub 1" at 100yds once you figure out the powder bullet combo.
Chuck

Thanks, Chuck...I appreciate your kind words...Tom is a very good mentor + great friend...I will post my groups and hope for the best..:wave:

I have shot a Knight well and hope it continues.

Damn, I hope you M/L shooters don't put me down to bad....I'm a nu-bie just like Nam...I'm finding my way with a M/L Thx...guy's

Very cool, I hope I am still hunting at that age

It's all cool. We were all newbies at one point. Hell, I'm still a newbie. :s4:

Hey Tom, I admit I posed for a pic. but that's pretty much how I hold my cheek next to the stock....Been shoot'in for over fifty years and have my own way of holding every weapon that I shoot. Is there a right way or a wrong way? Hell I don't know. One of the greatest weapons I ever shot was the M-14 in basic training, Ft Dix New Jersey, April 68, Easter weekend we qualifed. I put down 1/2 man pop-up sillioutes from 25 meters out to 500 meters. We qualified on Holly Thursday & finished on Good Friday. I knocked down 68 out of 72 targets with the M-14...what a weapon....Went to Nam and was issued a M-2 Carbine...God bless the WWII guy's which was there weapon....not there choice....GI Issue....I carried a M-79 with me as a RTO with my unit. HE's, Bee Hive rounds and I was the flare man at night to put up some illum and I have one parachute in my Nam box from a flare which I fired from my bunker in An Loc. Today, nice keepsake....back then...hell, what can I say....nothing can be worse than putting up illum at night when on a night ambush that was sprung....May the Lord be with our sorry soul's and get us out of this jam "We Will Prevail...Walking away or bagg'in your buddies......Amen.....I'm sorry I rattled on...just a day to express myself....Let's talk some M/L stuff.....Let's get it on guy's & girl's...sorry I vented....Johnny

OK....let me say this.....I don't know if Grouse45 posted a pic. of his 2010 Jan. late season M/L buck on his birthday....I was there....19" M/L buck...really nice....He used his Knight M/L...model ? shame on me but my good friend...Grousr45 (Tommy) put down a good buck on his leased property....Where does he hunt???....HaHaHa....end of story...26 miles southeast of Columbus....find us if you can....lol


We know that there are one or two 160's...170's and yes maybe a 180 class P/Y and B/C dudes on the hoof on the leased property...we saw them right before the late M/L season Jan. 2010...yo baby...outdoor channel type whitetails......You Ohio gunners/archery come to Pa. so don't get honked off when us Pa. hunters come to Ohio...
We're tak'in your good bucks home with us and we love it.....Cheers Amigo.....Johnny/Avid Stick Hunter/ML
Hunter. God Bless you and I hope you get a good one!!!!

Grouse45 showed me a pic of some one's hand that was blown off apparently due to a serious miscue on the shooters behalf. Grouse45 showed me a little system of a safety check which I incorporated into how I load and take my last breath of calming air before I touch off....M/L shooting is a brand new ball game from High-powered rifles....One must be very aware of every load and shot....I'm just a newbie and safety is above all the macho ego trip when wanting to shoot that good group....Have a mental check list and let yourself shoot many practice shots and drop all the game you can....I'm 61 years young and I respect the weapon I have in hand....The weapon will in turn respect you.....NamGrunt aka Johnny
I"m sorry if I am babbling on....It's just my nature.....

LOL....61 is just a kid as long as you work out as I do....I have some muscals...lol just like pop-eye....Stay in shape young fellow....Your dream will come true when you smack that Cape Buffalo in Africa...
I was there...awesome!!! Bow/M/L you do it your way and I know you can do it...Lemme know....I'm root'in 4 ya.....Johnny

Thx...new-bie....I'm on board with you....lemme know how your hitt,in them....I have an awesome mentor with Grouse45 but I'll be more than happy to let you know what I'm shooting , loads, bullets and what it takes to make your M/L shoot straight. Remember, all M/L's have there own personality....worse than a woman. I shoot a Knight and I think you will see my groups....not bragg'in but U can do what I did. You just don't know it...Good luck my friend....

I'm sold on smoke poles and have been hunting before Columbus discovered America....I'm an old timer and have a great mentor with Grouse45....He hooked up with me for all the right reasons...He's a hunt'in fool and so am I.....C-ya in one of our shacks in Jan. when it's -20 and were bringing home the venison......Join us...Chow Baby....
That's Nam lingo.....M/L's are better than woman....Once you have your own M/L figured out...you can go in the woods and bring home the bacon....hands down...no questions asked...I hope the hell that your wife doesn't read this....Yikes!!! LOL

Richie, who I was hunting with took this pic at 200 yards Gobbler from where he was....This boy stepped out in the field where I was was strutt'in his stuf at about 175 yards and he come in with a vengance when he saw pretty boy....He ran ran into my 1187 smi...Good night Irene.... Grouse45 called him in... I take no credit for that.

Hey West by God Virginia
 

I agree with the excluding military terminology when talking about weapons that we came to love and enjoy....I did my time in 68 & 69 in the infantry in Nam....Toady I enjoy my weapons shooting/hunting as we are supposed to enjoy them....God Bless all the troops that are picking up the slack for us old timers. They are to be saluted with ut-most respect for there courage for being in the minority of the bravest of the brave....He/She who wears a uniform for there country stand alone with pride and honor and the majority will never know that pride.....NamGrunt and damn proud of it....

Grouse45 and I are going to shoot a couple other of his Knight M/L this weekend weather permitting. My elbow needss to re-coupe after I think around 36 shots when these pics. were posted. I will have a pad under the elbow in the future. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, it's just the way my elbow rests on the shooting bench. Ouch!!!

Black $ Blue Elbow
 

I saw a reply as to how I hold my weapon to my cheek weld on the stock. Aahhh...After over 50+ years of shooting I'll take full responsibility for all my bad habits. I gotta do what I gotta do. I take no offense at your observation. Even though my technique or form may not be by the book.

Yep....once you go through your frustration of finding the right combo for your M/L your groups will now be rewarding.

I purchased a Knight DISC Elite and put a 3x-9x Nikon on top. Grouse45 let me shoot his and I was sold right now. I believe my new Knight will out shoot my GameMaster 30-06 and .264 Win. Mag. which those rifles are now just memories. I may get to the range this weekend and get it zeroed with Lehigh Bullets.

You need to get you some Thor bullets