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Grouse45 04-22-2010 05:28 AM

Opinions on Brass and copper and bullet performance.
 
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lemoyne 04-22-2010 06:18 AM

Tried most everything on the market, I like the brass best as an all around big game bullet. It damages more over a longer length of penetration but still has the explosive shock force when it opens, this causes it to handle the long angle shots and the very big game better. I just wish I could shoot more as lately health has been a major problem. Lee

Grouse45 04-22-2010 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by lemoyne (Post 3616319)
Tried most everything on the market, I like the brass best as an all around big game bullet. It damages more over a longer length of penetration but still has the explosive shock force when it opens, this causes it to handle the long angle shots and the very big game better. I just wish I could shoot more as lately health has been a major problem. Lee


Hope you feel better Lee.

lemoyne 04-22-2010 06:36 AM

Hospital for operation next tuesday maybe it will help.

Gm54-120 04-22-2010 07:09 AM

IMO copper bullets retain the petals better but those lost brass petals also create a massive impact shock and multiple wound channels.

IMO for most hunting on non dangerous NA game either is nearly overkill except on the largest game.

My tests with Lehigh .400-185gr-.458-277gr DOA bullets showed massive would channels even though the petals came off and penetration was outstanding.

They cost a tiny bit less than some Barnes depending on weight and caliber.

My personal favorite in my 54 is the Barnes 50cal 275gr Expander MZ. In the 50 i like the good old Barnes .458 Original 300gr Semi Spitzer although they are grossly over priced for a copper and lead bullet.

Next would be the Lehigh .452 250gr DOA. These are plain nasty and penetration is insane. The Lehigh .458 277gr is a nasty lil bugger too.

So IMO brass is better for high end fps/penetration and the Barnes coppers are better at slower velocities just because they are a bit more accurate at lower fps and retain their petals better.

Those nasty sharp copper petals are like food processor blades spinning many thousands of rpms into a hunk of flesh. The trauma on impact is excellent and the damage just gets worse after impact but with a bit less penetration depending on the game and angle of the shot.

Their is no best IMO until you figure in all the game and hunting situation/area and if you are in an area with game that may hunt you instead.

Scott

SWThomas 04-23-2010 02:05 AM

Hey Tom! Where ya been man? How'd your deer season go? Get any Spring Gobblers?

Grouse45 04-23-2010 02:59 AM


Originally Posted by SWThomas (Post 3616934)
Hey Tom! Where ya been man? How'd your deer season go? Get any Spring Gobblers?


Heading to Ohio today to try and get a spring gobbler. Hope all is well with you.:patriot:

SWThomas 04-23-2010 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Grouse45 (Post 3616939)
Heading to Ohio today to try and get a spring gobbler. Hope all is well with you.:patriot:

Cool man! Let us know how that goes.

Grouse45 04-26-2010 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by SWThomas (Post 3617284)
Cool man! Let us know how that goes.

I called this bird in for a friend.

10 1/8 Beard

1 1/8 Spurs

23 LBS



Here's a pic when it was still alive.






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