Little story about Triple 7.
03-07-2010, 07:37 AM
#11
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
Here I go again - contrary to most.... and I can only speak for T7 as I do not shoot Pryro...
But my routine is prior to the opening of hunting season, I will take my LM out and shoot 4/5 rounds to verify POI. Then I will will patch the barrel with a couple of windex patches to get the volme of the volume of the fouling out of the bore. Make sure that bore is dry and then I will run very lightly Montana Xtreme patch down the bore for protection. Dry patch that and reload for the morning hunt. If I shoot great but if I do not that same load may stay in the bore the whole darn hunting hunting season. In idaho weather during hunting season I always have a bit of oil in the bore to protect the bore. I have never wiped a bore prior to shooting with alcohol. I find it totally unecessary unless the bore is saturated with oil.
If I were to shoot the gun during the season the same routine would be repeated and the gun reloaded or it may even be reloaded in the field. In that event when I get home I will windex patch, to the top of the bullet, with a barely damp patch, dry patch, re-oil with a very lightly oiled Xtreme patch, dry patch and go hunting again the next day and for the rest of the season....
So i will tell you I shoot always shoot a Semi fouled barrel which is the same thing I do at the range.
Call me nuts but I have been nuts for 11 years now with out a problem.
T7 is not near the problem some make it out to be if you take reasonable steps. The powder is not corrosive the residue is and it can only be corrosive if it gets wet and is left wet for an extended period of time.
But my routine is prior to the opening of hunting season, I will take my LM out and shoot 4/5 rounds to verify POI. Then I will will patch the barrel with a couple of windex patches to get the volme of the volume of the fouling out of the bore. Make sure that bore is dry and then I will run very lightly Montana Xtreme patch down the bore for protection. Dry patch that and reload for the morning hunt. If I shoot great but if I do not that same load may stay in the bore the whole darn hunting hunting season. In idaho weather during hunting season I always have a bit of oil in the bore to protect the bore. I have never wiped a bore prior to shooting with alcohol. I find it totally unecessary unless the bore is saturated with oil.
If I were to shoot the gun during the season the same routine would be repeated and the gun reloaded or it may even be reloaded in the field. In that event when I get home I will windex patch, to the top of the bullet, with a barely damp patch, dry patch, re-oil with a very lightly oiled Xtreme patch, dry patch and go hunting again the next day and for the rest of the season....
So i will tell you I shoot always shoot a Semi fouled barrel which is the same thing I do at the range.
Call me nuts but I have been nuts for 11 years now with out a problem.
T7 is not near the problem some make it out to be if you take reasonable steps. The powder is not corrosive the residue is and it can only be corrosive if it gets wet and is left wet for an extended period of time.
03-07-2010, 10:48 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern Chautauqua Co. N.Y.
Posts: 2,976
Here I go again - contrary to most.... and I can only speak for T7 as I do not shoot Pryro...
But my routine is prior to the opening of hunting season, I will take my LM out and shoot 4/5 rounds to verify POI. Then I will will patch the barrel with a couple of windex patches to get the volme of the volume of the fouling out of the bore. Make sure that bore is dry and then I will run very lightly Montana Xtreme patch down the bore for protection. Dry patch that and reload for the morning hunt. If I shoot great but if I do not that same load may stay in the bore the whole darn hunting hunting season. In idaho weather during hunting season I always have a bit of oil in the bore to protect the bore. I have never wiped a bore prior to shooting with alcohol. I find it totally unecessary unless the bore is saturated with oil.
If I were to shoot the gun during the season the same routine would be repeated and the gun reloaded or it may even be reloaded in the field. In that event when I get home I will windex patch, to the top of the bullet, with a barely damp patch, dry patch, re-oil with a very lightly oiled Xtreme patch, dry patch and go hunting again the next day and for the rest of the season....
So i will tell you I shoot always shoot a Semi fouled barrel which is the same thing I do at the range.
Call me nuts but I have been nuts for 11 years now with out a problem.
T7 is not near the problem some make it out to be if you take reasonable steps. The powder is not corrosive the residue is and it can only be corrosive if it gets wet and is left wet for an extended period of time.
But my routine is prior to the opening of hunting season, I will take my LM out and shoot 4/5 rounds to verify POI. Then I will will patch the barrel with a couple of windex patches to get the volme of the volume of the fouling out of the bore. Make sure that bore is dry and then I will run very lightly Montana Xtreme patch down the bore for protection. Dry patch that and reload for the morning hunt. If I shoot great but if I do not that same load may stay in the bore the whole darn hunting hunting season. In idaho weather during hunting season I always have a bit of oil in the bore to protect the bore. I have never wiped a bore prior to shooting with alcohol. I find it totally unecessary unless the bore is saturated with oil.
If I were to shoot the gun during the season the same routine would be repeated and the gun reloaded or it may even be reloaded in the field. In that event when I get home I will windex patch, to the top of the bullet, with a barely damp patch, dry patch, re-oil with a very lightly oiled Xtreme patch, dry patch and go hunting again the next day and for the rest of the season....
So i will tell you I shoot always shoot a Semi fouled barrel which is the same thing I do at the range.
Call me nuts but I have been nuts for 11 years now with out a problem.
T7 is not near the problem some make it out to be if you take reasonable steps. The powder is not corrosive the residue is and it can only be corrosive if it gets wet and is left wet for an extended period of time.
(BP)
03-07-2010, 12:39 PM
#13
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
03-07-2010, 01:06 PM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Baileysville, WV
Posts: 2,925
This has turned out to be a very informative thread. Kind of like 20 different paths to the same destination. I have got hooked on using the Windex patches also. Cheap and extremely effective! This forum has made things a lot easier despite all the extra steps I now take.
03-09-2010, 05:50 AM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hayes, Va.
Posts: 2,332
As to a reload after a shot in the woods, I will always fire it after coming out of the woods and give it a good cleaning. I didn't do this once and had a mess on my hands because of it!
03-09-2010, 06:13 AM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern Chautauqua Co. N.Y.
Posts: 2,976
My only problem is with the trapped air in the barrel. That air will react to the outside temp and may turn into moisture and rust the inside barrel. Just a thought. I never did this, so it is just speculation on my part BP. While hunting I will always climatize my guns. I will leave my guns in my truck.
As to a reload after a shot in the woods, I will always fire it after coming out of the woods and give it a good cleaning. I didn't do this once and had a mess on my hands because of it!
As to a reload after a shot in the woods, I will always fire it after coming out of the woods and give it a good cleaning. I didn't do this once and had a mess on my hands because of it!
I never have to (climatize)...I Hunt in some of the Coldest, Snowiest, Rainest Weather around. During Hunting Season it may get to for example Zero outside, my MLer comes from the Warm House into the Cold Truck, then warms up in the Truck and back into the Cold when I get to my Hunting spot. Then Back to the cold truck, then warm truck then back to the warm house, and over again, and in all of the conditions I mentioned, rain, snow & cold.
I never had a problem with rust or moisture, Im sure it has to do with the end of my barrel being covered in Masking Tape.
(BP)
03-09-2010, 11:44 AM
#17
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
rafsob
I all these years I have never had any of those problems and like breechplug i hunt in crappy weather - I even violate another rule in that the gun is in and out of the house with me.... but remember it has been warmed slowly in the truck on the trip home. The real key is not to bring a really cold gun into warmth - going the other is not the problem....
I all these years I have never had any of those problems and like breechplug i hunt in crappy weather - I even violate another rule in that the gun is in and out of the house with me.... but remember it has been warmed slowly in the truck on the trip home. The real key is not to bring a really cold gun into warmth - going the other is not the problem....
03-10-2010, 05:17 AM
#18
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Burton, Mi.
Posts: 146
BP and Sabotloader
Correct me if I am wrong. You guys using Windex in place of cleaning solvent to clean your barrels. Is this a quick range/hunting cleaning or can it be used all the time?
Thanks for the info
Correct me if I am wrong. You guys using Windex in place of cleaning solvent to clean your barrels. Is this a quick range/hunting cleaning or can it be used all the time?
Thanks for the info
03-10-2010, 05:21 AM
#19
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 159
I loaded my bone collector about Thanksgiving..hunted for about 10 weeks in all kinds of weather from -8 degrees to the mid 40's and from driving rainstorms to two feet of snow, and you all know the amount of snow we had in north east this winter..during a break in late January I decided to fire it and then clean it..it went boom, right on target at 100 yards and the breech plug came right out with no problem and the barrel did need a little attention but all in all it was fine and that was with 3 pellets of 777..no problems that I can tell..
03-10-2010, 06:05 AM
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern Chautauqua Co. N.Y.
Posts: 2,976
But YES the Windex does replace the cleang solvent, it does a great job and it's cheaper too. Some just use a (spit-patch) inbetween shots as the range or wherever.
(BP)
