t/c newenglander 12ga
 

I got a chance to get one for 120.00,what do you think ? also who shoots one and inlight me about it have no idea on bp shotgunning
it might be some thing to use for some turkey hunting but i see there is no choke system is it full,mod or what

Well I grouse hunt with one. By the way the barrel is worth that at least. I'd hop on that deal so fast that it would shock you. The New Englander 12 gauge is easy to shoot. They claim that Winchester Wind chokes fit the barrel. The problem is my Winchester is a 20 gauge for upland birds. There is a choke on the NE. You can screw it out. Sometimes, especially when loading plastic shot cups you have to, to get the shot cup in the barrel.

I dump 80 grains of powder and then a 12 gauge shot cup, an equal measure of shot from a second cup, then an over the shot card. This is my grouse load, but it seems to have A LOT of power.

You can also buy the wads. Then you dump the powder, put an over the powder card on the powder charge, then a fiber wad, dump your shot on all of that, and then an over the shot card.

My NE is good out to 25 yards. I try not to do shots further then that. Now without my bird dog, it could be a different story. Might just have to get another dog...

I looked at t/c web site and the new englander came with 2 types one with choke tubes
and the other one cly bore i think cly bore wont be so good for turkey this rife has no chokes to screw in

Hey Jeep, I agree with Cayugad. If I ever run across a 12GA New Englander at a price like that my wallet will come out of my trousers so fast the friction may light my butt on fire.

A home without a dog is just plain lacking.

What make that such a great deal ? are they hard to come across ? do think it should work for turkeys i feel with no choke might not pattern well for them

Nice Picture Dave, it should be framed. Brings back memories of when we had Grouse by the Thousands, you could'nt get near the thick stuff with out flushing a few every few yards. But now there just about gone. I think the Coyotes put a hurtin on them. Now if I see them I just watch as they walk by or listen to the sounds of them Drumming, Music to our ears.
(BP)

Even if it is cylinder bore you should still be able to do fine on turkey out to 25yds or so. You can have it jug choked for like $60 to.

I would jump on that deal though! If I came across that deal I would not hesitate.

:s13: It all depends on how your brain is wired. :s3:

I consider $120 a very good deal for any TC sidelock in decent shape. :D Personally, I think I would prefer the cylinder bore. Think of the fun of experimenting with shot, patched balls, slugs, canister shot, harpoons, etc., etc.

sounds good to me will have to get it a try i guess i have to to get some klean x out

.........my wallet is made from onion skin and it makes me cry every time i open it........

I agree with breechplug Dave, you should get that pic framed. Awesome pic/

They do have a choke. Mine has a choke. I just am not sure what the choke is. But out to 25 yards I have little doubt it would do a turkey in.

Most rifles don't have choke tubes! being this is a shoot gun why do you say it won't be good for turkeys. My son doesn't seem to know this. He has killed 5 Turkeys with his non choked NE 12 Ga. His load is 7o gr of powder, 2 card board wads, same measure of 5s the a single card board over shot. it is deadly out to 30+ Yards on Turkeys.

Do a search of, Muzzleloading Shotgun by V M Starr, His writings are great for the shotgunner.


Just in case you can't find a copy by doing a google search: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=2605

Not a T/C historian, but I believe the first NewEnglander 12ga models were produced with an improved cylinder fixed choke. Later it was switched to screw-in choke tubes and sold with an improved cylinder tube installed, and optional tubes available.
The one I bought was a .50 rifle, and I purchased an accessory barrel from T/C in 12ga which had the IC screw-in tube.

From a conversation with a T/C tech I'm led to believe it's the same barrel that was used on the Black Mountain Magnum when it was sold.

I've used a generic choke tube sold to fit "Winchester - Weatherby - Mossberg" shotguns in my NewEnglander. These tubes are very slightly shorter than the T/C tubes and recess into the muzzle very slightly when installed, but the internal joint where it butts against the shoulder inside the barrel is tight. I also have a T/C full tube which produces very good (tight) patterns.

Over the years I added an accessory camo stock and then picked up a spare lock, so I now have 2 complete NewEnglanders. One in .50 cal and one in 12ga. I have found both to be excellent performers - not fancy, but very functional!

I also have buried somewhere in my "shop" a walnut stock for the NewEnglander, and I intend to cut it down for my son in the next year or two. He's 9 years old, and I figure if I can get the length of pull shortened to fit him the NewEnglander will be a great way for him to get started. Both the .50 and 12ga barrels can be loaded down a bit and still perform well.