OregonHunter5

Right now for my Idaho season I am shooting 90 grains T7-3f in the GM-LRH shooting a 460 grain Bull Shop. Most of the DWB guy will tell you that 70 grain is more than enough...

If your shooting deer, they're thin skinned and does not take a lot to penetrate them. Out to 250 yards, I PERSONALLY would be pushing all the powder I could and still be accurate. That is a long way out there for a muzzleloader. I never shot past 150 yards at a target.

OregonHunter5

I did not pick up on your high end of your anticipated range til Cayugad mentioned it.... Shoot!!! 250 yards with open sights is quite a poke unless you do a lot of practicing... Even if you could see and place the the sights on a target that far out the varibles that the bullet crosses in that distance can move the bullet 20-30 inches

i was thinking in that distance for all other hunts other than ML season here and with a leupold ultimate slam on the gun.thoughts?

That distance with open sights is EXTREMLY difficult for anyone. If your planning on taking a long shot, you better try pushing that load as hard as you can until your accuracy begins to fail. Your'e going to get considerable drop at that range so I would suggest having your zero at 150yd minimum. Otherwise your holdover will be too high to take an ethical shot at that range. I have a hard time pulling the trigger over 100 yds or so with open sights. Although you never really clarified wether or not you would be using a scope.

Now you did.

250 yards, open sights? Good luck at seeing a deer with open sights. At that range, you're sight is going to cover the entire deer, even with a 6 o'clock hold.

btw. i have a friend who goes to a buffalo shoot in montana every year. they shoot the sharps out to 780 yards, peep sights. how can they do that?

a buffalo stands 6 feet high at the shoulder. compare pictures of a buffalo and deer and you'll see how they can do it. Its like a geo metro VS a 1970s buick sitting out in the field.

OregonHunter5

The Sharps probably has a vernier sight on it also and bet they have done a good deal of practice...

The U-slam would certainly be the way to go at those long ranges - but if the scope was legal them their might be much better bullets availble to use a that distance rather than a full bore conical. Not the a lead freight train would not work...