should i switch?
 

i have been shooting t7 pellets for the last couple years and have just about runout of pellets (have around 6 or 7 loads left ). i get the crud ring in my omega and was wondering if loose would give me less crud ring? also i have noticed that the pellets have cracks on the sides and therefore cannot be exact on the weight. i used to shoot pyrodex rs out of my old rifles and like t7 alot more but have not shot loose t7. also the loose is cheaper and i already have a measure. so to switch or not switch that is th question??

When I tried loose 777 in my Knight Disc I had the crud ring...

I usually shoot Goex FFF unless I find Pyrodex at a deal...

the crud ring isnt a big problem but the price of pellets is stupid

Switch to loose if only for price alone. If the crud really bothers you convert to 25ACP ignition and it should pretty much be eliminated.

Pellets are WAY more expensive than shooting loose powder. Right now you should be able to get some good deals on powder- with hunting season over, stores are trying to get rid of their stocks.

I've had very good luck with T7 loose in FFG and FFFG. Both have worked well, but the FFFG has given me better accuracy and less crud ring. But for me the crud ring isn't such a big deal because I swab between shots. I'll almost guarantee you will improve your accuracy switching to loose powder as well. You can pick up a powder measure at you local store, or order one through Cabelas or another online store.

whats this 25 acp conversion and what benefits does it have over a regular 209? is it cost effective?

you could also try blackhorn powder,no swabbing between shots and you would'nt need to convert your breech.it is pricey but still cheaper than pellets......karl

i thought about blackhorn but it is nonexistant in central ohio so i would have to drive to westvirginia to cabelas or pay ridiculous shipping. i also cant shoot it out of my blk-diamond. i thought about it though until i couldnt find it

I was hesitant of changing to loose also. I finally made the switch to loose and would not go back to pellets. More for the money and more options for developing accurate loads. The next thing I discovered was BH 209. I've been very happy with it. No way would I ever go back to pellets.

For me the switch from Pellets to loose powder was the best move I ever made. Not only was it cheaper but I could fine tune a load that was the most accurate out of my MLers using incriments of 5gr's untill I reached peak accuracy. You cant do that with pellets. Also swabbing between shots should help the crud-ring, or switch to a powder like BH209. The cracks in the pellets should'nt matter much in weight as it would'nt even be noticed, there just getting old or handled. Go to loose and you wont be dissapointed.
(BP)

your not the first thats complained about availability.if my loads are 100 grains or less with t7 i like the 3f it seems to leave a lttle less crudring but i still swab after every shot,when hunting in winter i use 50/50 windex/alcohol.i do'nt know who was first to use windex but the stuff is as good as anything else i've tried
karl

the pellets are like 3 yrs old because until this year the omega was just to get 4 extra days with a gun in the woods and now im gettin way into this( the slug gun is up for sale) and want my setup perfect.

Everyone want the perfect set-up, that's what we all strive for. Trying different things is the only way to know what's the best for you and your ML. Good choice on selling the shotgun, mine was retired along with the rifles back in 89 and I never went back. If you dont like Pyro RS, get some T7 loose and you'll be fine.
(BP)

When pellets first came out several years ago, a buddy of mine bought some to try. When he was shooting I noticed something flying out the end of his barrel. I walk down there to look and it was a pellet on the ground still burning. That happened everytime he shot the pellets. He was shooting a knight with #11 caps. I dont believe that would happen with the 209 primers nowdays, but I just wouldnt break down and buy any pellets. Loose powder has work a long time for me so I will just stick with it.

Why not real black powder??? I'm fortunate in that I have a Goex distributor about and hour and fifteen minutes away...I was in the area last year and stocked up for $11.55 a pound...

I hear some talking about cleaning etc., it's just a non issue to me...If I have to clean it during the season it means I killed a deer...:) Most of the cleaning is done during a range session...

I started shooting muzzleloaders in the 70s and most of my hunting is done with a .40 and a .54 flintlock so I just use Goex in my Knight...

In addition, the flash point of real black powder is lower so if you are still using caps you should have more reliable ignition...

I remember when Pyrodex came out in the 70s, it was developed because of the higher ignition temp so it didn't have all the shipping and storage regulations...A few years later the marketing folks spun it around to cleaner burning, easier cleanup...