T/C Pro Hunter (Endeavor) Hang-Fire
12-18-2009, 05:45 PM
#11
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 476
I have talked to three guys who had a similar problem this year as you, all had left the gun loaded and had it in the cab on the way to their spot...I think it was just enough moisture to cause a problem, I don't know what else to think of it.
12-19-2009, 09:42 AM
#12
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hyde Park, Utah
Posts: 252
When i load my gun for a hunt i leave it in a gun case in the back of my truck and never bring it in the house or cab . I brought my gun once into the cab after being outside in freezing weather , and noticed it was covered with condensation as was the inside of the barrel so i put the barrel down and then a few minute later i dried it off and changed the load just to be safe . Then i put it back into the gun case in the bed . So if i ever bring in into the house or cab again i will always change the load , but better just to let the gun stay cold . But i use loose powder and never have used pellets . Only miss fire i have ever had was when i was messing around with BH209 and my .25 acp conversion . But i only use 777 loose powder now .
Last edited by UtahRob; 12-19-2009 at 09:45 AM.
12-19-2009, 09:51 AM
#13
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 77
so how do ya get a load out without shooting it...safely?
When i load my gun for a hunt i leave it in a gun case in the back of my truck and never bring it in the house or cab . I brought my gun once into the cab after being outside in freezing weather , and noticed it was covered with condensation as was the inside of the barrel so i put the barrel down and then a few minute later i dried it off and changed the load just to be safe . Then i put it back into the gun case in the bed . So if i ever bring in into the house or cab again i will always change the load , but better just to let the gun stay cold . But i use loose powder and never have used pellets . Only miss fire i have ever had was when i was messing around with BH209 and my .25 acp conversion . But i only use 777 loose powder now .
12-19-2009, 10:26 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern Chautauqua Co. N.Y.
Posts: 2,976
Well it happened to my Buddy again today........4th Hang Fire and 4th Missed Deer. I told him to take his ML out of the barn and into the House but he did'nt listen. Anyway he's missed 4 deer already and each time I heard the ML go off and it sounded like fffffffffffft-BOOOOOOOM. We looked for sign f a hit in the snow, nothing. I know his Triumph is sighted in as yesterday we resighted it in and he was shooting 1"groups at 50yds, and after we finished I reloaded the ML for him so I knew it was done right, so much for that. This is his first ML and he's ready to give it up because of the misses, he's deadly with a shotgun and a good shot so I cant blame it on that.
Will a Hangfire cause the ML to not hit where it's sighted in for??????????
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Will a Hangfire cause the ML to not hit where it's sighted in for??????????
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12-19-2009, 10:36 AM
#15
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
Breechplug
Abolutely! And I am not so sure that is a hang fire as the pellets only partially ignite and you are not getting power at all. In fact if you had walked off the end of the muzzle out into the snow you might have found parts of the pellets...
Get some loose...
Will a Hangfire cause the ML to not hit where it's sighted in for
Get some loose...
12-19-2009, 03:18 PM
#16
Spike
Join Date: May 2008
Location: South Central Pa
Posts: 43
Having a hang fire will cause you to think what the h__l and you will move even a little will mess you up. I normally shoot flint locks but i have a TC Encore .50 and when I shot that a few years ago I seemed to prefer the Triple 7 loose to the pellets seemed better accuracy was given dont think I ever had a hang fire. My buddy had a problem last year his wouldnt go off primer poped but nothin for some reason when he took his bp out he hadnt found any pellets ?!! 
12-19-2009, 03:48 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern Chautauqua Co. N.Y.
Posts: 2,976
Breechplug
Abolutely! And I am not so sure that is a hang fire as the pellets only partially ignite and you are not getting power at all. In fact if you had walked off the end of the muzzle out into the snow you might have found parts of the pellets...
Get some loose...
Abolutely! And I am not so sure that is a hang fire as the pellets only partially ignite and you are not getting power at all. In fact if you had walked off the end of the muzzle out into the snow you might have found parts of the pellets...
Get some loose...
So if I mention loose powder to him and that you have to pre measure loads then he's really gonna flip! he's already flipping over the cleaning part. I guess some of us are MLers and some ar'nt. Remember last year when I posted a topic about his Triumph and him getting the sabot stuck in the barrel after he just got it for Christmas, I thought I'd own it then, now Im probably gonna get it for sure, especially after 4 missed deer and the hangfires.
So I better get it from him in 3 days when out Late ML Season ends and give it a good cleaning so it does get cleaned properly and not just left in the barn to corrode and rust away.
I should have just brought one of My Old MLers to let him use as I have for the last 3 years, I have loaded, cleaned and done everything for him except pull the trigger, I think he preferred it this way..................
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01-03-2010, 07:53 AM
#18
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location:
Posts: 94
Only other thing I can think of was maybe the bullet/sabot was not fully seated on the charge? I try and be careful about not jamming the bullet/sabot down too tightly so as to not destroy the bullet tip. Shot two shots at a deer the other day, first with T7 loose then follow up with two T7 pellets and absolutly no delay in ignition whatsoever. Second shot found the mark at 200+ yards. I was very pleased and wonder now if its more user error than anything.
