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huntmich 12-14-2009 09:55 PM

cva optima or accura .45 cal?
 
I'm looking at getting one or the other and i'm not sure which one I should go with. I have an optima in a .50 but want a .45 so I can reach out to 200+ yards. Anybody have any experience with either of these? I'm not worried about being able to change barrels. This will be strictly a muzzleloader. I just want something thats accurate to 200+

Roger46982 12-15-2009 01:10 AM

Not sure but I don't think the Accura is available in .45. 200 yds. is a long shot with any rifle especialy a muzzleloader. Would take lots of practice and load development. Longest muzzy shot I have ever taken was 160 yds. off a good rest and no wind with a .50 cal Knight.

huntmich 12-15-2009 05:31 AM

the accura is available in 45 cal. i know some people use the 45 cal accuras to shoot out to 200 but wasn't sure about the optimas. accuras in 45 are harder to find.

his guzzi 12-15-2009 06:49 AM

Accura at Cabela's is only avialable with the thumbhole stock. I agree 200 yds is a long ways but some try it. Not what they were intended for really but will. I am a big fan of shorter shots to be fair to the game we shoot. I know here comes the storm. Remember part of the hunt is getting close to the animal. Paper is fine.

Roger46982 12-15-2009 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by his guzzi (Post 3530225)
Accura at Cabela's is only avialable with the thumbhole stock. I agree 200 yds is a long ways but some try it. Not what they were intended for really but will. I am a big fan of shorter shots to be fair to the game we shoot. I know here comes the storm. Remember part of the hunt is getting close to the animal. Paper is fine.

I agree 100%

Roger46982 12-15-2009 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by huntmich (Post 3530143)
the accura is available in 45 cal. i know some people use the 45 cal accuras to shoot out to 200 but wasn't sure about the optimas. accuras in 45 are harder to find.

You got me thinking, a .45 cal. Accura to go along with my 50 but there is no .45's listed on the CVA web site, they must have stopped making them. They will all shoot 200 yds. plus- but hitting and killing something at that range is another story all together.

lemoyne 12-15-2009 07:21 AM

I don't know a whole lot about CVA guns, but the ones with the Bergara barrel are very popular because that is an excellent barrel. And with the right load and bullet the biggest problem with 200 yds is knowing the drop and the distance. I also know my 50 calibers will do it for me with a very heavy load of Blackhorn and any of these bullets.
The 200gr Shock Wave the 200gr Lehigh [under 3 inches at 200 yds] I suspect that the 200gr XTP will also but I have not tried it these are 50/40 bullets, in the 45 caliber I use the 250 gr FTX for long range, I have taken Black bear and deer at 188 [by laser range finder] but have never needed to take game any farther than that but I shoot up to 250 on gong and knock down targets. The biggest problem with long range is time of flight of the bullet an animal can be standing still when you shoot and jump or take a step by the time the bullet gets there, thats why I prefer the lighter aerodynamic bullets and heavy loads. Lee

MountainDevil54 12-15-2009 09:19 AM

get the .50cal on my first try with mine at 200 i put 3 250gr thors into a 1 1/2" 3 shot group. I was pretty shocked to be honest.

Underclocked 12-15-2009 11:23 AM

Roger, it's still shown on the CVA site

PR3107S.45 Stainless Steel/Realtree® APG™ Thumbhole $495.95

They seem to be out of stock/backordered every place I look though.

ronlaughlin 12-15-2009 11:32 AM

My 50 caliber Accura can shoot 200 yd and more.

Here is a 45 caliber Accura for sale. The store has 4 of them available.

Underclocked 12-15-2009 03:03 PM

Where's here? :D

ronlaughlin 12-15-2009 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Underclocked (Post 3530677)
Where's here? :D


Whut? Are you sayin' that you don't have a 'link' on your computer?

On my computer i can 'click' on here and the computer takes me here:


http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...m/4,11836.html


If this doesn't answer your question, i don't know whut.


Breechplug 12-15-2009 04:13 PM

If I were you I'd stay with a 50cal, 45's are to hard to find stuff for. I have a 50cal ACCURA set up with a Leupold Ultimate Slam ML Scope using a 240gr XTP Mag, 105gr's of Pyro and a T7 Primer. I shoot about a 2" Group at 200yds with it. I Practice, Practice, Practice long range shots and have taken a few Deer out to 175+yds with complete pass throughs. But ALL of these shots were at Standing Still Broadside Feeding Deer and I knew the Distances. So there's nothing wrong with a 50Cal for long range shots.
(BP)

Roger46982 12-16-2009 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Underclocked (Post 3530516)
Roger, it's still shown on the CVA site

PR3107S.45 Stainless Steel/Realtree® APG™ Thumbhole $495.95

They seem to be out of stock/backordered every place I look though.

Thanx UC, missed it.

Breechplug 12-16-2009 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by Roger46982 (Post 3531002)
Thanx UC, missed it.

Roger, you should find the 45. cheeper else where than at CVA, there prices are usually around $100 MORE than say Cabela's, why? because the manufacture's dont want to under price there dealears, as the dealears sell more of there product than the manufacture does.
(BP)

Roger46982 12-16-2009 01:13 AM

Yea, I noticed they were way high, think I will just buy another .50 cal. Not sure if I want a thumbhole, had a Knight Extreme with a Th. Hole stock and really didn't fit well. I may wait till the seasons end and pick up a used one for the cheap.


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