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YooperMike 12-04-2009 05:52 AM

New Omega!
 
Got a new Omega last night, Hardwoods and WeatherShield. Very excited about it. Had to upgrade my old Nighthawk that was about 12 years old. Going to go and shoot it today. Little nervous about hitting the broad side of a barn with open sights, but I want to leave it open, so I'll just have to practice more. Going to be shooting 3 pellets of T7 and 250 Shockwaves. Deadly combo...if I can hit anything!

SABOTS250 12-04-2009 06:01 AM

Too much powder. Use 2 pellets. That is more than enough and you'll get better accuracy.

In addition, I went to the White Hots and CCI primers in my Encore and no longer have the Crud Ring problem. I haven't tried the CCI's with the t7 yet, but plan to do so soon.

Roger46982 12-04-2009 06:22 AM

Ditto on the too much powder.

YooperMike 12-04-2009 06:40 AM

Too much powder eh? Perhaps I'll start with 100 grains and see what that gets me. What are the CCI primers? I have Federals currently. I was also curious about the WHite Hots, anything good or bad on those?

BOWHUNTERCOP 12-04-2009 07:02 AM

2 pellets or 100gr. is more then enough

lemoyne 12-04-2009 07:32 AM

Rather than say thats too much powder, I would say that 20 or more grains of that load is going down range and is in open air when its burned. Different guns have different design characteristics on of the Omegas is that a very high percentage of them do very well for accuracy shooting 100gr of loose powder. I am shooting 3 guns at present the rest are greased up and stored the Omega shoots consistently well with 100gr of pyrodex ,777 or BH209 and most bullets especially Shock Wave 250 and Gold Dot 250gr.
The Triumph likes 115 and 120 gr of BH209.
The Endeavor Encore SS like mag loads and shoots best with a 140 gr load of BH209 wit sabot-ed bullets and 90 gr with conicals.
So while there is always a chance yours will be a different individual, I would suggest that you consider trying 100gr of loose 777 a 130gr loose or pellet RS or 100gr loose of BH209; These loads would give you approximately the same velocity but maybe different barrel whip, but are in the range an Omega usually shoots very well with. Lee

YooperMike 12-04-2009 07:42 AM

Thanks for the info Lee. First trial with it today, so we'll see what it says.

Big Z 12-04-2009 07:52 AM

Might not be too much, just try and see what kind of accuracy you get. Anyways, pellets are a waste of your money. Get a bottle of loose and a powder measure, then you're in business.

spaniel 12-04-2009 08:02 AM

For pellets I would try 2X50 (100gr), then 2X30+50 (110gr) then 2X50+30 (130gr) and only if you still have good accuracy go for 150.

Loose powder is more flexible, test 100,110,120,130,135gr stopping when you loose accuracy and backing up 5gr and testing that. Going up by 10 gets the job done in less shooting if you get up to high charges accurately. 135gr loose is what I consider max charge given that 777 is around 15% more powerful than pyrodex and the guns are rated 150gr BP/pyrodex.

If you really want to use max charge, move up to a 300gr NON-BONDED bullet and it will probably be accurate, all 300-325gr bullets tried in my Omegas are accurate to full charge but not the 250gr and lighter bullets.

While some powder may be spit downrange unburned, I do not agree that increasing to max charge does not increase velocity. Even with 200gr bullets I have chronographsed loads up to max charge and increasing the charge always increases the velocity for me (26" barreled Omega). Done for 250gr bullets too but not tested 300gr, didn't shoot heavies much until this year. I'm not saying you're not spitting powder downrange but that a percentage of the increased powder is indeed burned. So you are gaining velocity but losing efficiency.

Just as with CF magnums, there is a price to pay for peak performance and usually that is efficiency and recoil.

YooperMike 12-04-2009 08:07 AM

Thanks for all the info so far. I'm new to the modern inlines, so I've certainly got some playing around to do. The goal today is to get it hitting well enough to kill a deer tomorrow, then through the winter and spring I can get it dialed in with a real good load and bullet combination.


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