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I always hunt with my traditional muzzleloader during rifle season and use my 300wsm as back up if I cant get close to anything with my muzzy. I was thinking about getting an inline to use as backup for long range shots instead of using my 300wsm. I would still use my traditionals for the main part but figured an inline would be a good replacement for my high power. I would want to scope it so I could reach out to 200-250yds or so? what is the range of an inline scoped?

My question to you guys is what are my options? Whats good? Cabelas has several different inlines, many available with scopes. How is CVA? I was looking at the Wolf, Kodiak, and Buckhorn? How are these?

Another option is a bottom end Omega, those are not too bad as far as price goes if I get a cheaper one.

Also, how about traditions? Persuit or Buckstalker?

I would like to stay around $300 or preferably under. I do not need nothing fancy since my main hunting rifles are my traditionals.


Thanks


Kirk

If I wanted to buy a new inline for under $300 this is the one I'd get. Its ugly IMO but they are great shooters. CVA quality has come along way.


http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/54073

Under specs it says "electronic arc". That is wrong the Accura has 209 ignition.

Accura is an awesome shooting rifle. Cabelas has them on sale and www.rrarms.com has them at great prices too. I ordered mine from R&R

Also, does Remington still make their inlines? How are they?

over look remington. They were basically a test set up like the winchester brand muzzleloader. Just add a few new things such as a SS barrel, solid stock, new sights and test the market and if it sells decent, put it on the basic brand. Thats what cva did with the winchester.

Typically cheap and longer range shooting do not go together. However an Apex or lower end Omega will get the job end. I have a higher end Omega I use for long range shooting (several deer over 300 yds) and even that I've done extensive work on to take equipment limitations out of the equation.

For the gun, I would get an Omega or Apex. Hope you get a good one because if it's not accurate with powerful charges it's not a 250 yd elk gun.

For scope, remember you're going to be talking around 24-26 inches of drop at 250 yds even for the flattest loads. I'm a fan of tactical scopes because you can dial in exact drops, but a good one will not fit your price range if you're looking at lower end Omegas (they start at around $400-$600). I would recommend either a BDC-reticle scope and accept that the marks will be off and you'll have to shoot to figure out where it REALLY shoots at 200-250yds, or get a Mil-Dot reticle and do the same thing.

For bullets, I recommend the .458" 325gr FTX. A big strong bullet that is also built to shoot flat. I drive it at 1950 fps with 135gr Triple Seven FFg. I get 26" of drop at 250 yds. There are other good elk bullets out there but most are not designed for as good of energy retention to 250 yds (ie high BC) and with elk that is very important.

If you can find a used White in good condition you will have yourself a great shooter.

Just my opinion but 250 or so yds with a muzzleloader is a hell of a long shot no matter which rifle you decide on.

As MountainDevil54 mentioned Cabela's has the ACCURA SS/Bk now on sale for less than $300, it's a good shooter out to 200+ yds. With My ACCURA I can get 2"+- groups at 200yds on a good day.
But a shot at anything over 150-175yds is a darn good poke, a-lot can go wrong at them distances. Why cant you close the distance between you and the Deer to around 100yds or less?
Also get a good scope, preferably with a BDC or SABR Reticle so you know exactly, or pretty darn close where your shots will be at longer ranges, The Nikon Omega or Leupold Ultimate Slam ML Scopes are good options. I have the Leupold USML Scope on My ACCURA and it's a darn good one for long range shots.
Success to you, and Practice Hard if your gonna take shots at anything over 175yds.
(BP)

for under 300.00 i'd buy a good ole american made knight disc or elite.....karl

Being that Knight has went out of business, one of those may be hard to find. A couple of the local gun stores had some really good sales to get rid of their remaing Knight stuff.

A consistent observation of mine is that people tend to think it's unethical or unwise to shoot more than 50 yds or so further than they personally are proficient at shooting. Don't you think it's a little biased to extrapolate your skills and comfort zone onto another shooter and judge them with no knowledge of their history or abilities? While I certainly don't advocate people shooting beyond their abilities I don't think it's appropriate to project one's own skill set onto another person and judge them without full knowledge of them.

Let me also point out that some of the responses along these lines came from the East and reference deer while this guy was talking about Colorado elk during rifle season. I won't get long-winded about it but let me say if you have never been elk hunting in mountain country it is simplistic to say "close the distance" or "pass and wait". Closing 250 yds may require 3/4 mile travel and much more time than the elk will hang around. Elk are also migratory herd animals and passing a shot on one herd may mean you passed on the only elk that will use that drainage (much less present a shot) for a week. These aren't deer that hang in the same small home range all season.

The guy wants to give up carrying a gun with a theoretical range of around 800 yds (don't know how much of that he currently uses) to carry a smokepole that maxes at 250 yds during RIFLE season. I say WELCOME! :cool2:

While I would love to take a ML elk I travel 2000 miles to elk hunt so I have not brought myself to leave the 300WM home yet.

very well said. for me i wo'nt shoot over 150yds with ANY gun at a deer but have friends that can shoot out to 200-250 yds. easy and a nefew that shoots quart size soda bottles consistently at 600 yds. with a 22-250.........karl

Yes I am from the North East, and if you have'nt been here then we aso have a-lot of open land that we can use a rifle to Hunt with in certain areas. Also in most non rifle areas I Hunt there are many Corn and Soybean fields that strech a mile or so long and that much wide so shots at 200-300 yds are there if you want to take them, plus many other areas offer just as long of shots.
I practice, practice, practice at distances of up to 250+ yds with my ML and know if I want I can take them shots at long range and feel good knowing I am capable.
Have I ever Hunted Elk or been to them areas that you need to shoot long range because you cant get closer, no, so I refrase what I said about shooting at long range with a ML.
If you practice those ranges and feel comfortable with long shots then by all means take them. But first consider the wind, animal movement and have a rangefinder so you know for sure what your getting into befor you pull the trigger, you owe that much to the animals we hunt.
Sorry if I offended anyone, my opologise.
(BP)

Hey KB1, a 22-250 might be fine for 20 oz. soda bottles, but it's not enough gun for those big quart size ones. Tell him to get a 7mm or 300 mag. :biggrin:

Regarding the shooting distance thing, I agree with Spaniel. But remember, he's talking about those who are proficient at long range shooting - and that takes a lot of real time shooting on the range. Thinking you can, and wanting to, and having equipment that can do it is not the same as being proficient at it.

There is also the mindset of buying a rifle that claims 200 yard performance, take two pellets and a Powerbelt and go hunting. Sort of creates some natural bias and caution among those that have seen it too often.

I've no idea if he still has any of these left, but it's dern sure worth a try. http://www.openseasongear.com/Whitet...S_p/000031.htm

Some have already received theirs...







Thanks RD! For the use of your pictures. ;)

I worked hard this summer to get range proficient at 175 yds (up from 125) and did it.
Limiting myself to 150 lazer ranged in the field and have a 135, 140 (both does) and a 145 yd, 30 lb coyote. Next summer, I want to take it to 200 - but it won't go to the field with me before a couple 100 shots in various wind conditions are done.

Steve

I would not shoot an animal at a distance beyond my abilities and practice. Remember, im replacing a high power rifle made to shoot over 500yds with one that will shoot half that. I wont shoot more than 300yds with my high power anyways so basically im just changing the style of gun I want to shoot. I love muzzleloading so why not take it to the next level and completely drop high power?

Now lets remember this thread is about what inline I should get for shooting 250yds or so. My dads friend does this same thing with his Omega instead of using his 300 win mag.

100% agree, I try to balance that with turning off a new member who MAY be proficient by passing judgement before we have the whole story.

From his updated post above it seems reasonable what he is looking to do regarding his experience.

Drop is easy....it's judging the wind that separates the men from the boys.

And I always thought it was judging the women. :s13:

Nah, that's what separates the rich guys from the poor suckers!