My first new ML in 7 years - sabotless/smokeless capable
 

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I know it doesn't look like it belongs on the forum now but it will in a few weeks. It's a Savage Model 11 in 243Win.

Pac-Nor makes drop-in .45 ML barrels for the Savage action already threaded for the Savage-10ML plug. There are a number of machinists out there who make custom plugs that take 45ACP or shortened 243Win cases as primer carriers for magnum rifle primers.

So far I have the following:
-Savage Model 11 package gun in 243Win
-Pac-Nor 26" 1-22" twist ML contour SuperMatch hand-lapped barrel (ordered)
-Custom plug (ordered)
-HS Precision Varmint stock in spruce green w/black (ordered)
-Rifle Basix 1-3lb trigger (ordered) -- factory has too much creep
-Scope level
-Bushnell 6500 2.5-16X42mm Tactical scope w/side focus
-Leupold Weaver-style quick release rings
-T/C PowerRod

Left to order or find:
-20MOA base
-stainless or aluminum tubing to make ramrod ferrule

Everything should be here and it should be shootable by mid-January. Not sure when I can access a milling machine and tool shop to get the ramrod channel into the stock and ferrule installed.

Purpose is to shoot .40 cal bullets like the 200SW up to 2600-2700 fps or ..45 bullets like the Parker Extreme or .452 FTX sabotless.

I'll update the thread with pics as they are available.

Interesting. Maybe I'll have to get my hands on an extra savage action to try something similar.

Get a used one cheap, or if you go new and plan to upgrade everything like I did get a Stevens as the action is identical but everything else is cheapened to cut the cost significantly. But you don't care if you just want the action.

The only reason I got this Savage was because a) it was stainless, and b) it had a 243 Win barrel and you can use a Savage as a switch-barrel rifle and I've always wanted a 243. So now I'll have two guns in one.

I got the Pac-Nor barrel in yesterday. Now all I need is the breech plug, I'm still waiting on the machinist...I keep telling myself that patience is a virtue....and that I have any!

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Does Pac-Nor make custom barrels for other guns? I have been thinking about a smokeless barrel for my Encore. Lee

I'm not sure Pac-Nor does but SMI and several others provide what you need for the Encore.

Here it is, complete except for the breech plug:

Very Nice! :-) :-) I also shoot allot of the Bulk Win Bullets. and Of course my Hard Cast in MLs.

Have you ever Paper Patched any Boolitz, I would send you some 333 gr smooth sided if you wanted to try them as Paper patch boolitzs in the .45. to wraps of tracing paper easily bring them up to .458. they are sized .452 now. They might load perfect paper patched in that cannon. 3 wraps would defiantly make them real tight.

The groove diameter is .458 but the land diameter is supposed to be closer to .45. What many people do (and I will try eventually) is get a sizing die a couple thousands smaller than the bore diameter and size down the .451 and .452 bullets, then knurl between two rough files to bring them back up to fit the bore tight enough to be accurate yet loose enough to ram down. Then shoot sabotless. I believe this will only work well with jacketed bullets, I have not heard of anyone trying it with lead bullets as I don't think the knurling would provide enough resistance against the bore.

It's a very interesting idea however and I appreciate the offer. How much thickness can you paper patch? Perhaps this would be an option for .44cal bullets?

I decided not to chop up my HS Precision stock to hold a ramrod, I'd need to get it on a mill to get through the aluminum bedding block. I've learned there is a good shock cord jointed collapsible ramrod people use and carry in a belt pouch, I'll probably go that route for now.

Very nice. I think I am jealous