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Kylake_nitro 10-29-2009 11:50 AM

Bullets
 
Hello guys from a new forum member:cool2: ... I made the jump 2 yrs ago from shoting a traditional BP to an inline. I worked up a powder load of 90 grns of 777 with a 245 grn powerbelt. I am shooting 5 shot 1in. groups. Here's the problem though, this year during our early BP season i shot and killed 2 does, one ran just over 100 yds and the other ran around 80 yds or so. Neither one left hardly any blood on the ground, i mean you couldnt trail one at all. Both were lung shots with complete pass throughs. The exit hole wasnt much bigger than the entrance. If it wasnt for looking for 2 hours i might not have found one of the. I am definatley looking for any suggestions. Thanks!!!!! By the way, I love this forum.... Thanks guys

MountainDevil54 10-29-2009 11:59 AM

drop it down to about 70-75grains T7. With 90gr T7 that bullet had to of exploded.
check out my post here,
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...n-quanity.html

HOGGHEAD 10-29-2009 12:13 PM

http://www.harvesterbullets.com/

The 260gr Scorp. Funnle point or Scorp. PT gold
Harvester Short Black Sabots
100gr T7 2fg Reg. CCI Primers Not the CCI 209M
AWSOME Groups Expand very well Great Blood Trails

IL-Cornfed 10-29-2009 01:38 PM

It surprises me that you actually prefer the CVA Powerbelts ??? Most folks I have talked to, and my own experience, suggest there are FAR better bullet options for you to consider. Keep an open mind and try some other bullet configurations and see for yourself. I've killed a handful of deer with the Powerbelts and they were nowhere near as impressive as the damage inflicticed by the 250 gr Shockwaves. Good luck and good shootin'

Big Z 10-29-2009 01:56 PM

How bout some good ole maxi-hunters

MountainDevil54 10-29-2009 02:07 PM

maxi hunters are probably a worse choice. I'll never go down that path again. I'd use a round ball over the maxi to be honest lol

SWThomas 10-29-2009 04:04 PM

Shoot one of these...

http://www.barnesbullets.com/

They look like this when the expand and they will sure cause some bleeding...





And they're this accrate at 100 yards...


Kylake_nitro 10-29-2009 08:33 PM

i have been leaning towards the Barnes or th Hornady SST.... Thanks for the input

heinz57 10-30-2009 02:14 AM

it can't get any better than what SWTHOMAS showed us ..picture is worth a 1000 words

saxman1 10-30-2009 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by SWThomas (Post 3488858)
Shoot one of these...

http://www.barnesbullets.com/

They look like this when the expand and they will sure cause some bleeding...





And they're this accrate at 100 yards...



Which Barnes is that?

BOWHUNTERCOP 10-30-2009 05:20 AM

I agree on the Barnes, used them in my Knight, and now use these http://www.barnesbullets.com/product...t-ez%e2%84%a2/ in my Triumph

lemoyne 10-30-2009 06:49 AM

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Any good bullet will take a deer, personally limited expansion bullets like the Barnes I would use on an elk or bigger game which I prefer the Lehigh for any way. Your problem may well consist of two parts, the far majority of us put the Power Belts of the bottom of the list of bullets we would use. The spot you aim at and where you hit often has as much to do with a blood trail as the bullet. Hit in the right place with the right bullet a majority of deer will drop on the spot.Just two weeks a go I all most passed on a nice buck because of the angle of the shot, but using 140 gr of Blackhorn and a 40 cal 200gr Lehigh I decided I could do a good job on him he weighted 270 pounds and had a nice 7 point rack I shot him in the back just below the kidney and the bullet torn liver lungs and heart to pieces and he only went 25 yds.
Now normally I would expect a heart shot deer to run a 100yds because that my experience. One the other hand most of them shot right over the heart drop right on the spot. This is the kind of shoot where a really good bullet makes the difference. A Lehigh or a Barns maybe even the most excellently priced Gold Dot.
But I believe that for the most part hitting the right spot is a very large part of having a good blood trail, and that the right spot along with the right bullet and a load of at least 110gr with one of the better powders like Blackhorn [some people prefer 777] will drop them on the spot reliably and so there will be no need to trail. If you can see the deer laying from where he was standing when you shot it takes care of that part of the problem.

SWThomas 10-30-2009 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by saxman1 (Post 3489295)
Which Barnes is that?

250g T-EZ.

saxman1 10-30-2009 08:48 AM

Thanks SWT
I'm at their site now.

MountainDevil54 10-30-2009 08:50 AM

If you like not having to use a sabot you can try the Thor. These suckers are mean! This bullet doesnt use a sabot, its a full bore projectile. You just have to find which Diameter bullet your bore will use.


You can see the Colorado 247gr Thor and the expanding bullets after testing.


The bullets i tested in the sand/water trap did the same thing on this muley shot from 175 yards.



Big Z 10-30-2009 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3488680)
maxi hunters are probably a worse choice. I'll never go down that path again. I'd use a round ball over the maxi to be honest lol

Oopsie. I read it backwards. Thought he said inline to traditional :s201: I can say the 435gr .54 maxi hunters do the trick juuust fine. Hdy SST/ T/C Shockwave get my vote for inlines.

lemoyne 10-30-2009 09:04 AM

Shucks I forgot to mention the Thor and the FPB they are excellent bullets also especially when you live where you have to use a bullet with out a sabot or just like a full bore projectile.

DeerandbearhoG 10-30-2009 02:23 PM

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Try TC shockwaves, havent had a deer get 30 yds after being shot so I dont know how good a bloodtrails they leave though.

SteveBNy 10-30-2009 05:32 PM

If you don't want to shoot sabots, the Bullshop full bore conicals are my choice.
460gr plus lead puts them down quick at 50 cents each.
And shoot as accurate as sabots or pb's costing 2 to 3 times more.


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