209 Accuracy VS #11 Accuracy
 

I have always wondered about this. I took my Traditions Evolution out today with a scope, sighted in at 50 yards and took it out to 100 yards after a good cleaning.

80gr Pyrodex RS, 348gr Powerbelt Aerotip, Winchester W209 Primers. My first shot was low, next 2 were great. Maybe it just prefers a fouled bore while shooting 209s? Yes, i will adjust the scope later on. Just wanted to shoot for groups not not worry about hitting exactly where i needed it.




Fouling under the scope from 209s,





Next i changed out the 209 Breech plug insert and screwed in the #11 percussion cap insert.

Bolt Closed while capped,

Grayed out holes are the previous holes shot with the 209s,


Now on shot #3 i noticed a great deal of fouling the first 1" of barrel that gave me a hard time pushing the Powerbelt through. I did not get this with the 209's. So while my first 2 shots did shrink down in size with the #11 It seems the fouling is a good deal worse at the end of the muzzle with #11's.

Fired #11 Cap:


Fouling on scope after 3 shots with #11 caps. Very little difference between the #11 and the 209's.


Tomorrow i want to try the 247gr Colorado Thors out with 90-100gr Pyrodex RS and see how that groups with a scope.

What i learned:

I'll use whichever is the most reliable/Accurate in this rifle. That being the 209 primer.

MD I did the same test over the Summer and I got the same results as you. Im thinking mabey as the #11's have less charge as the 209's, thus more fouling as the 209's burn the powder better? I did the same test with various 209's also, and with them too some had more fouling and some were more and less accurate. Go with what works best for you.
Anyway good to be back on the Forum and I wish Everyone a Safe and Happy Hunting Season 2009
Ron

I'm curious...were you using #11 mag caps? And if not, I wonder what would happen.

MD, I know I hav'nt been on the Forum in awhile, and I see things have changed a little. What happened to My Avitar? can I put another one on here, if so what do I do?
Thank's
Ron

yeah you can put up a new avatar. This forum switched servers so maybe it messed it up. You just have to go into your User CP ( Profile) and theres a little upload box. Be sure to resize the pic to huntingnet size specs.

I was using remington #11s ( 44% more flame) and on my next range trip the following day i used CCI #11 Magnums. Both had the same amount of fouling in the muzzle. Actually when i think of it, it was heavy white fouling. I figured 80 and 90gr Pyrodex RS charges would have burned pretty clean.

I think that the Pyrodex RS simply burns dirtier than Pyrodex P and some other powders.
Shooting with a cleaner powder would have reduced the residue with the #11 caps.