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outdoorsmen 09-18-2009 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3445539)
outdoorsmen

No not Federal at all, the sabot will be an MMP but the bullet will be a Barnes contract bullet.... This bullet should be night and day better than a SW/SST and I am not a SST/SW fan at all.

But, for those that are - this should be a giant leap forward... They are more expensive $26.?? for 15??? vs the $22 for bonded SW's and near double the price of the regular shockwave.

Of course, you know my first complaint.... $1.73 per bullet - WOW!

yeah i agree it's a TEZ and mmp. i shot the tez straight wall from barnes and didn't like it compared to the tmz boattail.

sabotloader 09-18-2009 12:45 PM

heinz57


{ Of course, you know my first complaint.... $1.73 per bullet - WOW} not expensive for a hunting bullet if it is good ...you can always use cheaper bullets to practice on paper ..i use the BARNES for hunting and cheap HORNADY SST for target practice ..
Yes i know I shoot even cheaper XTP's at paper and I shoot more expensive Noslers, hunting and even going to try some expensive Lehigh's this but at least they are only $ a bullet.

Approaching $2 per shot is kinda out of site - when you could just go buy a real Barnes and shoot it - if you are a Barnes fan... Might save you some money....

Maybe that is a 24 pack of bullets... that would bring them much more in-line price wise....

Bryan7219 09-18-2009 01:11 PM

I'm kinda new to muzzleloading. Could someone please explain the advatages of a all cooper bullet.

ronlaughlin 09-18-2009 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Bryan7219 (Post 3445698)
I'm kinda new to muzzleloading. Could someone please explain the advatages of a all cooper bullet.


Lead found in
processed venison
BISMARCK, N.D. —
State health officials say
lead was found in nearly 6
percent of the samples
from venison processed
last fall under new state
recommendations.
Sandi Washek, the
Health Department’s lead
coordinator, said 404
samples of ground venison
were checked from 54
meat processors across
North Dakota.
The state Agriculture
Department last year published
recommendations
to encourage more precautions
in butchering
venison.
Washek said state
health officials continue to
recommend that pregnant
women and children
younger than 6 avoid meat
from deer killed with lead
bullets. Washek said
health officials recommend
that “everybody else
use their judgment to
minimize their exposure.”

driftrider 09-18-2009 02:05 PM

That does seem pretty high, but maybe you're paying a premium for the T/C name on them.

I just bought another pack of Barnes Expander MZ's from Scheel's the other day. I'm used to ordering them online and getting the 24 pack for about $25 plus shipping. I grabbed this pack and the price was $20.99, which I thought was great, until I got it home and realized that in my haste I didn't notice that it was a 15 pack. The packaging is so similar I didn't notice the difference at the store. The good thing is that my gun is sighted in and ready. $1.48 is pretty pricy for punching paper, but it's really not that much considering the performance the Exp-MZ gives on game.

But from now on I think that I'll buy my hunting bullets online from Mid-South rether than getting overcharged at Scheel's.

Mike

fusion 09-18-2009 02:16 PM

If they are indeed the TEZ then you could buy them from Barnes much cheapier.
15 for $18.54 or 24 for $28.39. And the TEZ is .451 diameter not .452

spaniel 09-18-2009 06:51 PM

SWs have killed dozens and dozens of deer for me with absolutely no issues, and the FTXs are cheaper if they end up working. $1.73, no thanks! If you're shooting BH209, that's getting more expensive than feeding a magnum centerfire with the best ammo money can buy...

SWThomas 09-19-2009 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Bryan7219 (Post 3445698)
I'm kinda new to muzzleloading. Could someone please explain the advatages of a all cooper bullet.

+1 to what ronlaughlin posted. Plus, copper bullets (especially Barnes) offer 100% weight retention. Lead bullets tend to fragment. These copper bullets will open like a flower displaying 6 razor sharp petals. Here's some pics of some Barnes T-EZ's that I tested on wet newspaper...




Doe Dumper 09-19-2009 05:32 AM

Man! I think Ill stick to the SW's and the round balls. Deer arent bulletproof..lol. I cant really understand needing all copper for the low MV's that muzzleloaders have.

outdoorsmen 09-19-2009 05:51 AM

swtom-----that is beutiful


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