You're right, I don't cry about it, I just don't use it ;D

Personally I've found the 25ACP conversion to fix the crud ring issue in every rifle I've tried it in, takes 30sec to swab and I typically wait longer to let the barrel cool anyways, and I found out that I prefer manipulating the 25ACPs more than the 209s with cold hands during the season anyways.

Nothing real bad at all. I was taking a look at the new Remington shotgun when a customer walked in. I listened to the whole conversation about 777 and BH209. When the owner was out of BH209 and the customer was pointed to powder valley the dispute began. The owner does have a point when powder is in stock. 777 cost $29.99 and BH209 cost $32.99. It's still more and you get more with 777. But i still prefer BH209. But when you look at online ordering 777 is way cheaper as you can see above.

Lee, it's not a couple dollars. It's several dollars. I just want everyone to understand the cost difference. The cost savings is around $150.00 bucks per case when buying a case of 10 bottles of 777. I spend the extra money because i like it and prefer it. But the guy who cant can buy bullets with the savings. ;)

CRYING !!!

$14.00 is More than a couple bucks , If you can CRY about the crud ring with 777 and how your never going to ever use it again ,i guess we can CRY about the price of BH209 !!

same here , the crud ring i barely noticeable !!

Or a guy could buy "New and Improved Knight Breech Plugs" with the extra money:p;)

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Lane, I just have to chuckle about all this, and you know why even though we don't mention it here. When it comes to prices especially. Lee

Grouse45

Thanks for pointing the $'s 'Facts' out... You have always been about savaing a ML shooter $'s in the long run and again this points the $'s you might save if you choose to do so. It is really all about 'choice.' I am one of the people that does not have the problems with T7 that others do so it really works for me here in Idaho.

I leave guns loaded the entire season, when I do shoot one for hunting season I run a couple of patches of windex dry rhe barrel treat it with a quality bore oil dry patch and reload. I do not really clean the bore until after hunting season... so as I have always said I shoot a semi-clean bore. Never had a problem with corrosion in the bore with T7. It is nothing like BP or Pyro...

I use Goex, last I bought was $11.55/pound...

same here !!

I find that one wet patch (spit) goes right through the crud ring . Never tried 777 with a 209 primer just the .25acp .