I have several old boxes of .45cal handgun bullets I have accumulated over the years from hand loading my Para-Ord P-12, one box I think is 300gr HP I am going to play with. Even though I think mass matters when talking killing power, nothing beats a well placed shot. I use to routinely take Caribou in AK with my 25-06 using hand loaded 120gr Noslers Partitions when I lived there.

I am ordering some 45cal Nosler handgun bullets tonight I like them so much.

I know the cost of BH209 is a draw back but it has its place I think and if I had to go into the bush I would take it as I think its the most chemically stable and resistant to climatic conditions....but then again what do I know.....:confused2: The more I use it the more I might like it.

I was swabbing between shots with "usually" a lightly oiled patch. The fffg powder had to have the barrel cleaned well to get a follow up shot.

This is just me but the BH209 powder I thought should have been weighed vs just measured by volume.

I shot my 54cal hawkins with BH209 also and thought it was way to hot a load for it at volume measurements. Of course this is a much older weapon using balls.

I currently am bidding on a BP 12ga shotgun on Gunbroker for turkey season.

I would suggest a different swabbing solution... something with a substantial percentage of alcohol. The oily swab might well be counter-productive.

BH209 meters very well in volumetric measures. Weighing on scales might get the last tiny bit of consistency to be had, but it is one powder that I can't make a serious argument FOR weighing.

I will give the alcohol a "shot", sorry for the really poor pun.

I don't know why you would call the Knight Vision a poor gun. I have had the pleasure of shooting mine now for a while and love it. It is by far the most accurate ML in my safe! And that was with a variety of powders and bullets.

Maybe you just got your hands on a Monday mornin' gun or just a plain lemon.

Boy, talk about getting old!!!! :bash:

How the heck did you get a Hawken to ignite with BH?

Semi

They do make an aftermarket 209 nipple that will go into a TC or could he not duplex a load. See and that does not make any sense to me either but....

You are correct.....

The funny thing is as we get older we are supposed to get smarter. In our youth we did things not too bright at times because we simply did not know any better. Well when we get older we do those same things simply because now we know better but because we are now smarter (theoretically smarter), we can now pull it off. Never mind the fact that the a bad idea then is still a bad idea now.

Ok the sort of whole story goes something like this... Lets see what it does in my old 54 hawkins, just because. So "snap", nothing, clean the nipple, "snap", nothing. SO I say to myself this sucks.......go down stairs read up in the forum about problems just like this......this would be where I should have read first.........so in the end after "ball fishing" and adding a little bit of something I know burns and stacking 209 on top of it and then igniting it. This is the part that is not a good idea. Never mind that this is a huge PITA to do with absolutely no benefit to an old hawkins that does its best work hanging above the fireplace. So instead of relating this whole series of events as it relates to a bad idea, I simply came to the conclusion it just is too hot for it and my hawkins now loves me again.

I really do think 209 powder is not the best thing for this weapon even if I did have a 209 nipple for it.