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RE: Range work with a peep sight

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So the bullseye is not centered, the front bead is

That's the way I do it. But I use a post front sight (don't like beads) andcenter the very top of the post. I adjust the sight so that bullet impact is just above the top of the post.

RE: Range work with a peep sight

Is this the type of peep sight that you shoot with?

I can get one of these to fit my Knight for $33.05 from Numrich. Might be fun to try.
One question, How do these peep sights work at dawn and dusk? Ihave never used one.
Art

RE: Range work with a peep sight

flounder33, the X7 comes with this:

See http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=749748

Pretty much the same thing, but mounts and is adjusted differently. I am told they work well at dawn/dusk but some will take out the aperture peep and just use the "ghost ring" in low light. Others with more experience can chime in.

RE: Range work with a peep sight

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One question, How do these peep sights work at dawn and dusk?

The small aperture is a little difficult in low light. Most peeps come with two apertures, a very small one for target work in good light, and a larger hunting aperture. Also, you can take out the aperture disk completely and use the threaded hole in the mount with good results in very low light.

RE: Range work with a peep sight

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ORIGINAL: hubby11

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ORIGINAL: spaniel

I have always wanted one of these for my X7:
http://www.eabco.com/Muzzleloader03.htm

Sight in and test loads with a scope mounted, then pull it off to hunt with the peep. Otherwise you have to remove and re-mount the peep every time. This and some Warne quick-release rings should work quite nicely.

I've seen those as well. The problem is, I'm cheap and since the X7 already comes with a peep, I can't justify shelling out the extra bucks for the PeepRib Muzzleloader Peep Sight. I may regret my cheapness.

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Shooting open sights well is an acquired skill. How you set up your sight picture makes a ton of difference. I see a lot of STUPID books telling you to cover the intended target with the front bead or sit the bullseye on top of the post like a pumpkin. That's great if you only shoot at one size bullseye at a set range, but it's crap for hunting. I sight my guns in so I center the globe in the center of the sight (your eye should reflexively do this anyways) and then sight in so that the bullet impacts at 100 yards right where the very highest point of the curvature on the globe sits. That way I have the most precise aiming point possible with the sight, and it works for all distances and target types. I have no issues shooting good groups to 200 yards with this strategy with my X7.

spaniel, I am not sure what you mean. I found an older post -
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=3365939&mpage=1&key=open%2csight s&#3366454where Semisane attached a pic on different ways to sight in, with "H" refering to open sights.

I get that your method is different but am not sure what you mean when you refer to the "curvature of the globe." Is it what texhunter58 stated- "I use a peep sight, but don't do it as seen in H above. I use a front bead and center this front bead in my peep. then put the bullseye on top of that. So the bullseye is not centered, the front bead is."

Thanks,

The problem with "H" is that your brain is very very good at centering something in the peep. "H" shows you centering the bullseye and then putting the post underneath. The problem here is that while it may work with a nice round bullseye, how easy is that to do with a precise aiming point on a deer?? Not very. Additionally, you then lose the ability to precisely position the post in your sight picture. It is ABSOLUTELY VITAL that you position the front and rear sights the same each time, or you'll get terrible vertical shot stringing.

I center the front globe in the rear peep because my eye does that almost automatically. Then I know my bullet will impact right at the top of the front globe. By top of curature I mean the "north pole" of the globe, the very top top point on the circle you see as you look at it. The reason I like this as opposed to a blade is a blade gives you a WIDE horizontal line on the target, while the globe curves and gives you a nice precise point.

RE: Range work with a peep sight

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ORIGINAL: spaniel
I center the front globe in the rear peep because my eye does that almost automatically. Then I know my bullet will impact right at the top of the front globe. By top of curature I mean the "north pole" of the globe, the very top top point on the circle you see as you look at it. The reason I like this as opposed to a blade is a blade gives you a WIDE horizontal line on the target, while the globe curves and gives you a nice precise point.

Now I got it. Makes good sense. Thanks for the explanation.

RE: Range work with a peep sight

My 2 cents. I scoped my X7 but I use a peep sight & very small fiber optic dot for front sight on my 357 max When shooting with a peep I sight it in & test my reloads by centering the front dot in the peep Then use what people call a 6 o clock hold. I put the front dot on the bottom of the bullseye. When shooting for fun or hunting I put the dot where I wnt to hit. Now this works for me out to 100 yards or so. 2 or 3 inch group or so. Thats the best I can do with peep sight. My eyes just arent that good any more. After my max is sighted in I can hit softball sized targets ,very small pumkins out of the garden. out to 85-90 yards freehand 9 out of 10 times. My max is set up to sit above a thicket so average shot is gonna be 60 yards or so.

Hubby Im shooting great groups with my X7 with 70 grains BH209 & a 200 grain SST with MMP blue sabots. The X7 got a short barrel
I dont know how much powder you can burn in it before your wasting powder. I havent went past 110 grains.

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I have a Williams Peep on my Omega and everything mentioned above I have found to be correct. My peep is all the way up on the ramp. I left my factory rear sight on and it holds real tight like that. I shoot a 2" MOA with this peep at 100yds and keep my front bead right on my mark. (Bench Shooting at a range) I use 110gr. BH209 and a 290gr. Barnes TMZ. I am very confident out to 100yds. I have tried 150yds but my group opens up a bit. Still in the kill zone but I just hope I am not presented with that long a shot with my ML. At 100yds off hand I shoot well but at 150????????Shooting Sticks or a tree branch would be my best option to take an ethical shot. Unless I can squeeze off a shot from the prone position.